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Christians forgive themselves
RE: Christians forgive themselves
(November 9, 2013 at 7:26 pm)ronedee Wrote:
(November 9, 2013 at 7:22 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Yes, there is all kinds of persecution. There's calling names on the internet, and then there's the oppression, victimization, maltreatment, ill-treatment, mistreatment, abuse, ill-usage, discrimination and tyranny atheists have suffered and continue to suffer from Christians to this day.

Just Christians?

Any honest person would include themselves in that fine speech!

Since when do I persecute atheists?

Quote:My advantage, I feel, is that: "everything" exists. and there was a "beginning". Atheists, as others, have no explanation for it. So, I think we have an edge in what is "unknown", by all of us!

Not only is this not a disadvantage to us, it's actually a disadvantage to you. You are dogmatically required to hold certain beliefs, so when reality disputes your beliefs, you are forced either to change the definition of reality and knowledge so that you can interpret them as not contradicting your beliefs, or you just deny reality outright. That's not a problem we face. We're not perfect about it, but we do try our best to allow reality to define our beliefs and discard them when further discovery reveals them to be of no value.

You want to define the truth, we want to discover it. You hold your beliefs as sacred, we view beliefs as ephemeral and of limited value. Because of that, we'll always have the advantage.
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Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 2, 2013 at 10:01 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Marvin - November 2, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Captain Colostomy - November 2, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Simon Moon - November 2, 2013 at 12:16 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Godschild - November 2, 2013 at 3:11 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 2, 2013 at 3:21 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ThomM - November 5, 2013 at 3:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 6, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 6, 2013 at 1:07 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 6, 2013 at 6:51 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Lemonvariable72 - November 2, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 2, 2013 at 1:05 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by WesOlsen - November 2, 2013 at 2:28 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Mystical - November 2, 2013 at 3:20 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 2, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Anomalocaris - November 7, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 7, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Doubting Thomas - November 2, 2013 at 7:11 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 2, 2013 at 11:00 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 3, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 3, 2013 at 12:50 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 3, 2013 at 12:58 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 3, 2013 at 2:36 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Silver - November 3, 2013 at 2:41 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 4, 2013 at 4:14 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by themonkeyman - November 4, 2013 at 3:13 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 5, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 3, 2013 at 2:42 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Silver - November 3, 2013 at 2:43 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Doubting Thomas - November 3, 2013 at 9:26 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 3, 2013 at 9:42 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 4, 2013 at 3:53 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Doubting Thomas - November 4, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ayen - November 4, 2013 at 4:36 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 4, 2013 at 4:42 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Godschild - November 4, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 4, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 4, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 4, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Simon Moon - November 5, 2013 at 3:19 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Godschild - November 5, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 6, 2013 at 8:02 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 10:18 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 6, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 7:01 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 6, 2013 at 7:06 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 6, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 6, 2013 at 7:31 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 6, 2013 at 7:46 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Jackalope - November 8, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 7, 2013 at 7:58 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Drich - November 7, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Godschild - November 6, 2013 at 1:10 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 4, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Doubting Thomas - November 4, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 4, 2013 at 6:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 4, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 4, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ayen - November 5, 2013 at 12:55 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Lemonvariable72 - November 5, 2013 at 1:03 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 5, 2013 at 11:46 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 5, 2013 at 1:33 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Tonus - November 6, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 5, 2013 at 5:27 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 5, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ayen - November 5, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 5, 2013 at 4:12 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 5, 2013 at 11:28 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 6, 2013 at 1:12 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 6, 2013 at 1:23 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 6, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 7:58 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Lemonvariable72 - November 6, 2013 at 8:02 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 7, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 7, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 7, 2013 at 7:32 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 7, 2013 at 9:15 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 7, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 7, 2013 at 9:54 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 7, 2013 at 10:07 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Tonus - November 6, 2013 at 1:53 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 6, 2013 at 7:29 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Mystical - November 6, 2013 at 8:31 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 6, 2013 at 8:01 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 6, 2013 at 10:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 7, 2013 at 9:33 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 8, 2013 at 11:01 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 8, 2013 at 12:08 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 8, 2013 at 1:27 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 1:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 1:57 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 4:45 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Bob Kelso - November 8, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Faith No More - November 8, 2013 at 5:23 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 8, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by The Valkyrie - November 9, 2013 at 5:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Anomalocaris - November 8, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 9, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Walking Void - November 9, 2013 at 4:56 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 6:31 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 9, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 8, 2013 at 11:28 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - November 8, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ayen - November 8, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 8, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 4:47 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 9, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Anomalocaris - November 8, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 9, 2013 at 2:55 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by catfish - November 9, 2013 at 9:34 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 9, 2013 at 5:29 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by freedomfromforum - November 9, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Brakeman - November 9, 2013 at 5:42 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 6:16 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 9, 2013 at 6:20 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 6:24 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 9, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 7:26 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 9, 2013 at 7:41 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 7:58 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 9:52 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 10:58 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Esquilax - November 10, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Ryantology - November 9, 2013 at 10:05 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 9, 2013 at 7:05 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RE: Christians forgive themselves - by Minimalist - November 10, 2013 at 1:27 am

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