anyone else here not pro life for the sake of being pro life?

[Mystical]

that's what nursing homes are for, Fidel. And if you think your family would rather deal with your untimely death rather than be able to visit and love you despite your inability to recognize them: I can quite say that you're mistaken.

Marvinator:
I'll discredit all I want. You can't make me not. If only I had that special Point of View gun, you'd see why.

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Well, I have multiple responses to that then.

Say they had no will to live, as they did not choose to live. I would request to know if they have the will to die. If they have the will, and the final decision to die without doubt, I would say they are clear about dying, and I would not stop them from doing that. This sometimes leads into euthanasia cases in the hospital for extensive care.

If the person was too confused or basically unclear about whether to live on or die off, I would request to know a few things. A: What is influencing the person to consider death and not life? B: Can A be solved? C: If B can be solved, solve it. If not, discuss options for coping with A.

I agree things can get better, but not always. Those cases where it does not get better might just be the case where our technology is not advanced enough to help them. Whether it be incurable diseases, or blindness, etc.

I have an incureable disease, you know. The treatment for it is a lifetime of low dose chemotherapy, endless doctors spots and labs, side effects and secondary complications. I've considered suicide. Especially when I was in pain that was unmanageable. Here's the thing: had I been able to euthanize myself I would have and I would be missing out on all my life which I find without a doubt, worth living now. I said earlier, for cases where life day to day is pure physical agony with NO hope of reprieve: I get it. I'd even help you administer it and hold you im my arms as you died.

Fidel why don't you do a search for it with key words?