(November 13, 2013 at 1:14 pm)missluckie26 Wrote:(November 13, 2013 at 1:11 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: I think it's very selfish to expect others to stay alive just because you care about them. This is not a straightforward issue, of course, so I'm not saying "Everyone go kill yourselves if you feel like it!" but I think the selfish pendulum swings both ways.
Why is it selfish for someone who isn't you, to want you to live? I have talked total strangers out of killing themselves, and I assure you: its not because I am being selfish in wanting them to live. I honestly f
don't care either way unless I love you or you're a friend. I just think it's the decent thing to do, tohelp someone who have lost the ability to help themselves. Do you consider death preferable over living? I don't, up to a point (like terminal illness or lifelong physical suffering).
I'm not talking so much about strangers and people with treatable mental illness and I'm not saying don't talk people out of suicide - once gone, there is no coming back, so it's not something to be done lightly. But if I want to die due to extreme suffering, like a severe terminal illness, it's selfish that other people would want their desire of my life to triumph over my own desire.
I think death is preferable to certain types of living. I am mentally ill and almost died from suicide. I'm glad to be here alive because it turns out there are meds that actually help me significantly - I hadnt given anti-psychotics a chance up to that point. In that case, someone saying "at least live long enough to try some pill combos and see if it sorts shit out" is reasonable.
The thing is - if there's nothing that can be done to alleviate someone's suffering then I find it selfish to keep them here.
And chuck - I don't know what you just said, run on sentences confuse the shit out of me.
