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anyone else here not pro life for the sake of being pro life?
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RE: anyone else here not pro life for the sake of being pro life?
(November 13, 2013 at 1:45 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: It depends entirely on ones definition of 'selfish'. As Psykhronic states, the angle of selfish runs both ways. Wanting someone to live because of nothing more than your want is no different to the contrary of wanting to die because you want to.
agreed. but who says thats their reasoning for wanting you alive if you areng suffering?

Quote:This is not a ubiquitous assessment of all cases, but in my example I think it is.

Just because you don't know who you are doesn't mean you can't get enjoyment from being alive.

Quote:People should be able to respect the decision of the person whose death it is. They may disagree, and they can voice their disagreement naturally. I would welcome their input.
I'd agree with you up to the point that you say not living is preferable to living life with dimentia.
Say you had that disease where your skin fell off. Or you had to live life in constant severe untreatable pain, then I'd agree with you.

Quote: But I would not want to be a shell of me, as is the ultimate end of diseases such as dementia.
Pudding still tastes yummy. Sunshine still feels good. A hot bath is still relaxing. A kiss on the forehead still releases seratonin. Even if you don't know who you are there are still worthwhile experiences to be had.

Quote:IMHO, it's much better to chose one's time if given the option-/opportunity. [/uote]
We always have the option and opportunity though. Just because I can does that mean I should? Wont I be missing out on life, whatever life that may be?

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Clearly our preferences differ, but I don't ever want to be a shell, and I think people who can love a shell of someone are simply loving the memories of the person they had before they became that shell. The difference therefore is negligible. The memories always remain.
Why are memories more important than your life?

Quote:As chuck says, the want for someone you love to live for nothing more than a desire that they should be with you as long as they can is, indeed, very selfish.
agreed, if that was their reasoning.


Quote: One almost becomes property in that perspective. I think choosing one's time of death is much more preferable for all parties, even if those closest to you don't realise it at the time. You control the cards and how they fall, and so you can be the true master of your life and indeed your death.
Why do you think death is preferable to life if you have dimentia?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: anyone else here not pro life for the sake of being pro life? - by Mystical - November 13, 2013 at 2:15 pm

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