RE: anyone else here not pro life for the sake of being pro life?
November 13, 2013 at 4:44 pm
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2013 at 4:48 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(November 13, 2013 at 4:30 pm)GodsRevolt Wrote: I claim no authority over someone else's life purpose.
What I claim is that defending suicide in any case is simply stating that life CAN lose its meaning.
Yes, it CAN. Recognizing that it CAN LOSE its meaning is the first step towards assessing what meaning it actually CAN acquire.
(November 13, 2013 at 4:30 pm)GodsRevolt Wrote: So "meaning" in any life is actually weaker than "pain". This puts pain and comfort as the priority measurement of the value of life above meaning.
No, the remaining meaning in any life CAN be less than the weight of its pain, but that is for the owner of the life to determine.
(November 13, 2013 at 4:30 pm)GodsRevolt Wrote: If pain and comfort are the measuring stick for a valuable life, those in pain are basically worthless, and this opens the door to many a moral dilemma.
Again, comfort and pain are a yard stick. If it were not in the case of you christians, then you wouldn't care for your standard of living, churches wouldn't care to amass wealth, and one spectacularly sybritic Catholic Bishop wouldn't renovate his own official residence in Germany at a cost to his perishners of $50 million. But except amongst certain "captains of industry", christian adherents of the wealth gaspel, and the said bishop in Germany, comfort and pain are usually not the ONLY yard stick. Meaning of life therefore depends on a aggregate measure of which pain and comfort can become, but is not by necessity, a dominant part.
So it is up to those in pain to determine which yard sticks to measure the aggregate meaning of their lives, and how much those yard sticks say. Not you.
(November 13, 2013 at 4:30 pm)GodsRevolt Wrote: This is not how humanity works. The value of life does not diminish because of the circumstances it undergoes. The value of life CANNOT diminish.
Who the fuck are you, beholden as you are to the religion that probably killed more of humanity against their expressed wishes than all others combined, to speak for humanity about how humanity works?