(November 12, 2013 at 2:25 am)apophenia Wrote: First, you asserted (twice) that if a function had a limit of a certain value as it approaches a point (toward the limit of), that it then necessarily would have either that value at that point, or be zero (which itself is a value).I didn't say that!
The universe at time 0 must be constant (proved by part I)
which means 0 or any other (static) value
This is obvious!
I think you need to read the proof again
Quote:It does not necessarily have a value (i.e. 'is defined') at the limit even if the limit was defined.this is only on paper, in reality an object either exists or not
and if exists it is either dynamic/variable or constant/static
there is no other options
Quote:Secondarily, if you can't explicitly link designer + creator, your demonstrating there was 'a designer' is irrelevant to a discussion about a creator god, offers no support for the existence of, or other arguments for, that creator god, and is thus exceedingly guilty of the fallacious, ignoratio elenchi just referenced. For all you know, the 'designer' was an alien in a different 'brane' (think parallel dimension), and that designer's existence says absolutely dick squat about the 'creator' of this brane (this set of temporal + spatial dimensions).Agree, I didn't put this part yet