(November 17, 2013 at 2:53 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote:(November 17, 2013 at 12:37 pm)Brakeman Wrote: So in effect you are saying that even though all christians worship the same christ, read the same bible, talk to the same god in prayer, and are influenced and directed by the same holy spirit, that the direct infusion of the holy spirit is not strong enough to nudge them into being better, more consistent people. Not even enough to be indicated by statistics.That's exactly what I'm saying, yes. Whether you take the Christian view on what Christianity is OR the atheist view the idea that any belief would make people the same is absurd.
How pathetic.
So can you explain the incredibly weak or non-existent influence that this infusion of the holy spirit has on people, despite the perfect knowledge and power of god? Can you explain how god can "inspire" some christians so perfectly that they can purport to write the scriptures in his stead, but be unable to tell other christians that their interpretations and understandings of his will are incorrect during their prayer conversations?
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