The written records as evidence

[Brian37]

Aractus, you should know better. Even if the Glorified Jesus came down from the sky and shook their hand, this band of atheists would find some reason not to believe it was true.

Not true. I'd ask him what the fuck god was taking when when he designed the platypus

I'd ask the fucker why he gave us such a crappy home and why he needs attention himself. Doing the right thing is doing it even when no one gives you attention for doing it.

The soldiers who died on D-day were a real sacrifice. Most outside their own families will never know their names. Jesus as the story claims didn't stay dead and committed his fake suicide for attention.

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Who's 'we' white man?

You may be satisfied stating that, but blithely lumping everyone together as if it's an unassailable certainty goes too far.

Edit: This^, is in response to the question of a historical Jesus.

Again, I'm talking about the things widely accepted that historians are certain about. For instance they're quite certain about the Holocaust. Just because there may be a few crazy people out there who disagree, doesn't change large overwhelming consensus’s.

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Um no, there is no contemporary outside evidence during the alleged time of the character's existence.

Um, yes there is - what do you call this?



Here's more:





Those are from the time of Christ, then we also have plenty more from the time of the disciples (when the NT books were originally written) like this:



Caiaphas Ossuary
Yehohanan Ossuary


And of course plenty of valuable material from the 2nd century as well like this:



No contemporary outside evidence my arse.

You gave me pictures from what an apology website? You do know the difference between historical archeologists and theologians right? You also know that "Jesus" was a common name back then.

"Pauls"? you proved the existence of a writer? None of the gospels were written during the alleged character's life.

None of this proves shit but that the religion was successfully marketed. Otherwise since we can find depictions of Osirus Horus and Isis makes them real gods.

The Romans during the alleged life of your ficitonal super hero would have taken notice of this uppity guy, no record DURING THE time frame in question of the Romans ever noticing. The Romans were also excellent sensus takers.

Everything you posted proves that people fell for the writer's stories AFTER THE FACT.

But again, none of this would prove shit, even if we found the DNA of Jesus tomorrow to make magic babies born of virgins real, nor would it make surviving rigor mortis real.

"Jesus existed" if you could prove it, would mean one thing and one thing only, that a MERE MAN started a cult and got it successfully marketed. There are no such things as gods or magic men with super powers.

Bayler University? HA.

You know Muslims have colleges in their countries too, I am sure they point to their "historians" too and say "look look look, this crap here proves Mo existed so he was the one true prophet of the one true god Allah.

Yawn.

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Oh and you also know that forgery was rampant back then. No different than faking a autographed baseball. The shroud is the biggest fraud people know about.