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Prayer does not work
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RE: Prayer does not work
(November 19, 2013 at 9:39 am)Tonus Wrote:
(November 19, 2013 at 9:31 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: If I want to make someone feel better, I might give them a hug. They feel better, the hug worked.

If I want to make a Christian feel better I might pray with them. They feel better, the prayer worked.

Thus, because there are circumstances where the prayer can have the desired effect, (work) it's untrue to say prayer does not work.
This gets into tricky territory, though. If prayer works in the same way that a hug would, or a comforting talk would, or a helping hand would, then it isn't prayer that works; it is human empathy or sympathy put into action. In other words, if you visit the bereaved person and say a prayer with her the positive effect may not be from the prayer, but from the companionship and the resulting feeling that she is not alone.

It could well be that in that context a prayer works that way yes. But we're back into the realms of how it works.
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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Prayer does not work - by Silver - November 17, 2013 at 5:48 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by The Valkyrie - November 17, 2013 at 6:16 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Esquilax - November 17, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by The Valkyrie - November 17, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Tonus - November 18, 2013 at 9:39 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 17, 2013 at 6:57 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Walking Void - November 17, 2013 at 7:15 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Brian37 - November 18, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 17, 2013 at 7:03 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by freedomfromforum - November 17, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by pocaracas - November 17, 2013 at 7:25 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 18, 2013 at 7:46 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Bad Wolf - November 18, 2013 at 7:55 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 18, 2013 at 8:11 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Bad Wolf - November 18, 2013 at 10:25 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 18, 2013 at 10:45 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Silver - November 18, 2013 at 8:36 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 18, 2013 at 8:44 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Hoopington - June 4, 2014 at 5:50 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Zazzy - November 18, 2013 at 9:23 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 18, 2013 at 6:08 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by max-greece - November 18, 2013 at 9:32 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 18, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by max-greece - November 18, 2013 at 11:50 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Darkstar - November 19, 2013 at 1:02 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 19, 2013 at 3:41 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Mania2 - November 18, 2013 at 9:44 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Bad Wolf - November 18, 2013 at 10:48 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 18, 2013 at 11:04 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Walking Void - November 18, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Minimalist - November 18, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 18, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Walking Void - November 18, 2013 at 5:48 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Zazzy - November 18, 2013 at 6:08 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 18, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Zazzy - November 18, 2013 at 7:29 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 18, 2013 at 6:22 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by The Reality Salesman - November 18, 2013 at 7:04 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Walking Void - November 18, 2013 at 6:09 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by The Valkyrie - November 18, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Walking Void - November 18, 2013 at 6:25 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Minimalist - November 18, 2013 at 7:01 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 19, 2013 at 7:02 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by My imaginary friend is GOD - November 18, 2013 at 7:06 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by The Reality Salesman - November 18, 2013 at 7:30 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 19, 2013 at 6:55 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Captain Colostomy - November 19, 2013 at 7:06 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 19, 2013 at 9:31 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Tonus - November 19, 2013 at 9:39 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 19, 2013 at 11:09 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Tonus - November 19, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 19, 2013 at 5:08 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by The Reality Salesman - November 19, 2013 at 11:43 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by LastPoet - November 19, 2013 at 7:02 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by pocaracas - November 19, 2013 at 9:44 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Minimalist - November 19, 2013 at 11:13 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Brian37 - November 19, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 19, 2013 at 6:23 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Brian37 - November 19, 2013 at 7:02 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Neo-Scholastic - November 19, 2013 at 1:54 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by MindForgedManacle - November 19, 2013 at 2:32 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Walking Void - November 19, 2013 at 3:11 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by The Reality Salesman - November 19, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 19, 2013 at 7:20 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Whateverist - November 20, 2013 at 12:07 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 20, 2013 at 3:52 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Brian37 - November 20, 2013 at 10:05 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Whateverist - November 20, 2013 at 12:05 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Polaris - November 20, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Cyberman - November 20, 2013 at 1:34 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Whateverist - November 20, 2013 at 11:37 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Brian37 - November 20, 2013 at 12:49 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Jacob(smooth) - November 20, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RE: Prayer does not work - by Brian37 - November 22, 2013 at 8:18 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by hppavilion - June 4, 2014 at 3:59 am
RE: Prayer does not work - by Cyberman - June 4, 2014 at 5:31 am

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