(November 19, 2013 at 6:55 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: However the fact remains that under some circumstances prayer DOES work. Maybe not in the way some people believe, but in certain circumstances it can have the desired effect.
I'm not sure we are actually disagreeing in Principle, just on the wording.
Oh yeah, it works. Power of suggestion combined with placebo applied toward self limiting or accomplishing desires can have a desired outcome.
The belief that one can achieve result through prayer is enough to create the result through that belief. There's nothing divine about it.