I generally go back to the level of the claim and the level of the evidence.
This god thingy is supposed to be the most spectacular, awesome, amazing thing that there can possibly be. The "evidence" that is presented for this thing is invariably unimpressive.
What delivers the spectacular evidence for spectacular claims -- science does.
In 1902 a self-propelled flying machine was a spectacular claim. The wright Brothers delivered the spectacular evidence.
In 1969 landing men on the surface of the moon was a spectacular claim. NASA delivered the spectacular evidence.
In 1876 recoding and playing back sound was a spectacular claim. Thomas Edison delivered the spectacular evidence.
God is a spectacular claim -- put up or shut up.
This god thingy is supposed to be the most spectacular, awesome, amazing thing that there can possibly be. The "evidence" that is presented for this thing is invariably unimpressive.
What delivers the spectacular evidence for spectacular claims -- science does.
In 1902 a self-propelled flying machine was a spectacular claim. The wright Brothers delivered the spectacular evidence.
In 1969 landing men on the surface of the moon was a spectacular claim. NASA delivered the spectacular evidence.
In 1876 recoding and playing back sound was a spectacular claim. Thomas Edison delivered the spectacular evidence.
God is a spectacular claim -- put up or shut up.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste -- don't pollute it with bullshit.