(November 26, 2013 at 11:53 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: As with many things, it seems. Ah, it seems idealism and realism clash even outside of metaphysics.
...Man, I can't help but come off dorky when making philosophy jokes. xD
yea, it was turning us into nervous nellies.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.