(November 29, 2013 at 2:48 am)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote:(November 22, 2013 at 5:54 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Not even a good analogy. Insurance agents and accountants aren't owned by other people who can then sell them for cash.This is what someone would say whose understanding of historical slavery does not go beyond high school. Never heard of Marcus Tullio Tiro?
I do think it's amusing that Christians who claim the bible is 100% the word of God find themselves in the embarrassing predicament of being slavery apologists.
I wish I could stipulate that people who respond to me are actually willing to critique their own views and reason properly.
(November 22, 2013 at 7:00 pm)Cinjin Wrote: It's not "akin" at all. Show me historical evidence where police officers used the bible to harass young blacks.
The bible has been used to justify a lot of things, and this only serves to bolster my point. Dusty made a video mocking an idiotic comedian spewing out absurdities. He is not required to address all the wrongs done in the name of god. This just happens to be the one he is addressing currently.
That analogy doesn't work. "Guns are bad" is extremely subjective, whereas the great majority of the world would agree that slavery is universally immoral. Also, you need to explain why Dusty's argument is illogical. His A+B does equal C. The video is not a debate, it's informative. He's simply showing a naive black man what the Bible says. Technically, he does not need to even draw a conclusion.
How?
How? Give specific examples.
This is not even possible. He's merely reading directly from the Bible. Do explain how he gives atheists a bad name? Specifically.
Where? How? Give me the time stamp of where he misrepresented American history?
Give me specifics. Also, How is he basically lying and why is that different from just plain lying?
He implies no such thing. Give me a time stamp that I can refer to where he makes this grand implication. As for questioning black christianity, that's obvious. His whole point is that there's a black comedian mocking atheists with an absolutely retarded argument. He therefore points out the absurdity of a black man supporting christianity in the first place. AND Rusty's point is valid if you spend the time studying slavery in America.
Racist or not, that was not your assertion and therefore completely inconsequential to this argument.
Of course he does, for the reason immediately above which I already addressed.
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Strawman much.
Yeah, you're showing me that right now.
I'm not defending Rusty because he's an atheist (as I'm not one anyway). I'm defending his video because all the man did was quote from the Bible to show a buffoon how absurd he is. I found nothing in his remarks worthy of him being called an idiot.
You're not engaging me here Cinjin. Are you friends with Dusty or something? Are you Dusty? Your accent isn't coming through, I can't tell.
The point is simply that if blacks can become police officers despite police officers harassing blacks, or if someone can own a gun despite getting shot by a gun, then one can (in theory) be a religious adherent despite the religious belief being used or misused to harm them.
If that's wrong, show me where.
If you can't, then Katt (who is hilarious, by the way) is right.
I think the reason you're so stubborn about the whole situation is to protect your beliefs, and the fact that said beliefs were used to justify the enslavement of thousands of innocent people strictly because of the color of their skin. Denying to support such beliefs means you don't agree with the word of our lord n saviur jezus. Agreeing with what's in the bible, in this case, slavery, reveals your character. You can proceed and explain how there were white slaves and such, but quite frankly, I couldn't give a quarter of a fuck. Slavery, regardless of color, is 100% wrong. There are no tiers of bondage. Do me a favor and stone yourself

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