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Unfortunately the atheist will have to stand up and go
RE: Unfortunately the atheist will have to stand up and go
(December 5, 2013 at 12:17 pm)DOS Wrote: So I have come to conclusion that the atheists:
1) Have no idea of whether the God, afterlife, soul exist.
2) They have a principal or a position unless it will be put an evidence to their face they will not accept that the afterlife exists and I am not sure whether it's even worth the position of the thinker or a philosopher, it puts them on the cockroach level, they have no clue about God either...so far so forth.



The problem that you have is that all you have is literature to back up your position.

We cockroaches have more than that. Consider the following brief list for your designer God. I won't ask if you think him worthy of worship. I will ask if you would employ him.

Christianity is of the opinion that God created the entire universe for us and that Jesus is the culmination of that mission:

The Universe is 13.72 billion years old.
About 70% of it is dark matter, and about 30% dark energy.
1% is everything else (Galaxies, stars, planets etc.)
That 1% is made up of about 100 billion galaxies with around 100 billion stars per galaxy on average.
That's 10^23 stars in the known universe.
Would you employ this designer? None of the above is required for the purpose.

The earth is approximately 4.5 billion years old.
Life on earth started some 4 billion years ago.
Single cellular life held sway for about 3.5 billion years until multicellular creatures appeared some 575 million years ago.
For about 40 million years these creatures dominated the scene until they suddenly all went extinct.
New creatures appear, they too went extinct.
5 great extinction events are known throughout the history of the earth culminating in the end of the dinosaurs some 65 million years ago.
In each great extinction event 75-95% of all living things disappeared from the face of the earth.
For the next 65 million years the mammals held sway.
Throughout all of the above species after species have gone extinct outside of the great extinction events.
200,000 years ago an upright walking ape called Homo Sapiens walked out of Africa and started to spread over the planet.
70,000 years ago that species was on the brink of extinction itself - down to some 1,000 breeding pairs.
2,000 years ago - 198,000 years after our species first appeared - Jesus came to save us all.
As of today 98% of all the species that have ever lived have gone extinct.
Would you employ this designer?

We are very ill adapted to our upright posture.
We lose more days work to backache than any other cause.
Our bodies contain organs (spleen, appendix) we can live without but can kill us.
Nerves that control the larynx descend into the chest cavity from the brain to return back up into the neck.
We are prone to problems with most joints particularly those involved in locomotion (knees, hips, feet).
We suffer from innumerable ailments from headaches to bacterial and viral infections.
Our teeth are too big for our mouths.
Our main pleasure centre is right next to waste disposal.
Our eyes are designed with the supporting blood vessels in front of the retina (compare to crocodilians where this is not the case).
Would you employ this designer?

Many animals have better hearing than we do.
Many animals, from the eagle to the goldfish have better eyesight than we do.
Many animals are faster than we are.
Many animals are stronger than we are.
Our DNA is 90% vestigal junk.
We are prone to a variety of genetic disorders.
We contain billions of cells. The amoeba contains just one. Some amoeba have upto 100 times more DNA than our we do (why?).
Would you employ this designer?

I'll stop there - not that I have to - but I just needed to illustrate the point.

So. Are you that self-centred that you think the universe was built for us by an interested God? If you believe God did design the whole thing - what kind of moron do you think he is?
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
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