(December 8, 2013 at 10:23 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:A newborn baby isn't part of my body and is a person with rights. An unborn baby is part of my body and I am a person with rights.(December 8, 2013 at 6:57 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: A child and a foetus are different. A child has already been born and knows it's alive.
(December 8, 2013 at 6:55 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Nope. Not wanting a baby is sufficient...
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Why do you have to decide whether you want the baby BEFORE they are born? Whats the difference between throwing an unwanted newborn baby in the trash and throwing an unborn baby in the trash?
Holding a human baby in your arms or holding him in your womb. Whats the difference?
(December 9, 2013 at 12:09 am)Lion IRC Wrote:The term "Birth Control" refers to Contraception. Contraception helps prevent unwanted pregnancies, which can reduce the need for abortion by up to 99.9% depending on the method. It's fucking awesome.(December 8, 2013 at 11:58 pm)Zazzy Wrote: Y'know, if we could all throw a big effort behind excellent birth control free for everybody, we could seriously reduce abortions, which everybody wants.
Abortion IS birth control. You are still taking away something many people regard as their "right"
(December 9, 2013 at 12:10 am)Lion IRC Wrote: If a womans reproductive choices are hers alone and nothing to do with men, how come I have to pay taxes to support unmarried moms?Because that's how a functioning society works. Everyone puts money in the pot for everyone. If Churches paid their fair share of taxes, you could pay less toward helping those less advantaged than you. Aren't you a Christian? Did Jesus tell you to give away ALL your money to help the needy?
(December 9, 2013 at 6:11 am)Lion IRC Wrote: You're dead right about that! Abortions do skyrocket when people stop caring.Yep. Because my mother chose to have me. Had she had me against her will, that would be awful and I'd hate myself for ruining her life. Imagine being an unwanted child? Like all those who are put up on ebay (or whatever the bog adoption agencies call themselves), I'd probably kill myself if I found out I wasn't even wanted and my mother was forced to go through pregnancy and labour wothout wanting to. Wouldn't you?
Should I care about what happens to unwanted babies or not?
You wanna know the one thing supporters of abortion-on-demand all have in common?
THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN BORN!
(December 9, 2013 at 6:57 am)Lion IRC Wrote: I beg to differ. It is a great convenience to millions of people every year.Why does that mean they like it?
(December 9, 2013 at 6:57 am)Lion IRC Wrote: How come men who support abortion on demand are allowed to take part in the abortion debate but when a man opposes it, suddenly it's a hands-off topic for women only?Because those men who "support abortion" are actually supporting a woman's right to have control over her own body. You know, because they have an ounce of respect for us and our rights. Unlike men like you who seem to think a woman should be at home producing babies like fucking farm animals.
