(December 11, 2013 at 3:38 pm)Upside Down Dog Wrote: I hear you.
You're not just saying that to get brownie points, are you?
Quote:And I never use the Bible as an authority if it's not mutually considered so; however, if when debating an atheist and scripture is used to bolster an atheist's claim, I will call them out on that.
In what way is atheist X using the Bible? If he's using it to wipe his ass, and you throw more passages at him, he's just going to use those new verses to collect the dingleberries.
Okay, all kidding aside, if there's a debate going on about how a particular verse or passage, by all means, unload with other supporting passages or counter argumentative passages. But at that point you have to admit that the argument isn't about proving god's existence, but about who's dick is bigger when quoting scripture. Am I right?
Quote:...I will consider the box to be open and the Bible used as evidence as it has been relented as an authority in some sense.
In some sense, but not the sense that's related to the OP. I feel you've been meaning to get that burden off your shoulder, and now that it's off, we can continue with the issue at hand here.
I don't care one wit if you use the Bible when arguing Bible claims. When arguing something that involves presuppositions, then we have a problem.
Quote:The belief in God is based on faith and is metaphysical which is in direct contention with empirical evidence and physical evidence; however, on the flip side, He cannot also be disproved under the same set of rules.
You're not related to our new, cool Xtian here, JacobSmooth, are you, because most theists (that I know) won't admit something like this. You're absolutely right in saying this, and I appreciate it, as I'm sure many of the atheists here do. We're not out to disprove god claims because that's not our burden to bear. I hope you tell your friends exactly that when they speak out of turn regarding what they think atheists are out to do.
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