Christian Paradox

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If you don't have objectively verifiable evidence, especially for someone who is apparently everywhere, in everything, intervenes in our lives, and grants us gifts on a daily basis, there should be at least SOME proof, don't you think? Considering my eternal soul is on the line here, I would think God would make his existence a bit more apparent.

If there is no evidence for something that is supposedly everywhere, um, YES non-belief IS the only logical conclusion. Also the magic aether told me so while it was holding me to the Earth.

Rhizo

These statements remind me of the story of a man on the roof of his house during a flood praying that God will save him from the rising water. A boat comes along to take him away but he refuses the ride because he is praying to God and is sure God will save him. As the water rises, another boat and a helicopter come along to take the man to safety but with the same results. Finally the man drowns. When he gets to heaven, he asks God why he didn’t answer his prayer to be saved from the flood. God answers “I sent you two boats and a helicopter.”

So maybe the issue is a matter of perspective. Maybe it is not the lack of evidence but the interpretation of that evidence. Maybe the existence of the universe, the fact that you have air to breathe, and all the good things that you have ARE evidence of the God who is everywhere, intervenes in our lives, and grants us gifts on a daily basis and you just refuse to see these things for what they are.

Here we go with this argument. The existence of everything does not equal existence of God. By the same merit, would that also be proof of my celestial mongoose? The fact that I have air to breathe is because the Earth formed an atmosphere or nitrogen and oxygen that supports the organisms that use it for energy.

Whether or not a God started it off is up for debate, but seeing as how this would be a scientific question, since it deals with biology, physics, and cosmology, sufficient objective evidence is needed.

If you say God is in everything, you're not adding any understanding to anything. You're not learning any more about the thing you're describing. It doesn't take on any special properties.

"God is in my water bottle"

I have not added anything to the water bottle, nor have I learned anything from it. It is a statement devoid of reason and merit. For something to have evidence of a creator, it needs to have objective and verifiable evidence supporting such a claim. For an all-powerful creator, this seems to be his weak point.

The joke you put up also is a bit one sided, but I guess it wouldn't have worked if the man had just stayed up there, not prayed to anyone, and got saved because he didn't expect a magical rescue from his sky daddy.