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Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does

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RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does

December 17, 2013 at 12:47 am

(December 16, 2013 at 8:52 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: I agree. Compatibly is entirely plausible. One thing I believe is relevant to free will is the idea of creativity. Very few choices are simple forks in the road or ordering from a menu. And even those are not so simple. You can choose neither path and go off-roading. You can flirt with the server instead of ordering. The capacity to invent new choices and create opportunities is part of what makes us human, the infinity within us.

Well, I'm not entirely sure I agree here. After all, I doubt even libertarians think we actually choose what to believe or what to value, and certainly not directly. In other words, I don't think anything other than doxastic involuntarism is truly coherent and accurate. So I think a better description would be that what we choose will be based on our values and whims (which themselves are based on our values).

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Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 1, 2013 at 5:44 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by houseofcantor - December 1, 2013 at 5:54 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 1, 2013 at 5:58 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by houseofcantor - December 1, 2013 at 7:19 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me - by Angrboda - December 1, 2013 at 6:18 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by bennyboy - December 1, 2013 at 7:00 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by pocaracas - December 1, 2013 at 7:10 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 1, 2013 at 11:17 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Angrboda - December 1, 2013 at 11:35 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by pocaracas - December 2, 2013 at 6:14 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 2, 2013 at 3:41 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by pocaracas - December 2, 2013 at 4:13 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Whateverist - December 2, 2013 at 2:24 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Whateverist - December 2, 2013 at 8:50 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by bennyboy - December 2, 2013 at 10:19 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 2, 2013 at 3:26 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Whateverist - December 2, 2013 at 11:29 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by MindForgedManacle - December 2, 2013 at 3:34 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Angrboda - December 2, 2013 at 9:38 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by genkaus - December 4, 2013 at 6:23 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 4, 2013 at 5:44 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by genkaus - December 5, 2013 at 3:18 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 5, 2013 at 2:49 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by genkaus - December 5, 2013 at 4:08 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me - by Angrboda - December 5, 2013 at 6:08 pm

RE: Fine tuning - by pocaracas - December 4, 2013 at 5:59 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 4, 2013 at 6:20 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 8, 2013 at 12:30 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Angrboda - December 4, 2013 at 6:22 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by pocaracas - December 4, 2013 at 6:28 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me - by Angrboda - December 5, 2013 at 3:25 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by MindForgedManacle - December 5, 2013 at 11:14 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by MindForgedManacle - December 5, 2013 at 3:41 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Mudhammam - December 5, 2013 at 3:54 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility - by xpastor - December 15, 2013 at 6:18 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Angrboda - December 16, 2013 at 3:59 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. - by xpastor - December 16, 2013 at 8:05 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Neo-Scholastic - December 16, 2013 at 10:39 am

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by MindForgedManacle - December 16, 2013 at 12:23 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Neo-Scholastic - December 16, 2013 at 1:49 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by MindForgedManacle - December 16, 2013 at 7:16 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Neo-Scholastic - December 16, 2013 at 8:52 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Whateverist - December 16, 2013 at 9:35 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by Neo-Scholastic - December 16, 2013 at 9:40 pm

RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does - by MindForgedManacle - December 17, 2013 at 12:47 am

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