RE: Christian Paradox
February 17, 2010 at 6:26 pm
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2010 at 6:44 pm by tavarish.)
(February 17, 2010 at 5:57 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: That's you bud
Did you always have reading problems, or did they just come about?

AD HOMINEM LOGICAL FALLACY ZOMG0RZ!!
(February 17, 2010 at 5:57 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Word swapping magic! Wow!
Yea, I like direct quotations too! High five! Next time try not to fuck up in the same sentence.
(February 17, 2010 at 5:57 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Currently I'm classifying you as 'moron'.
Coming from someone who doesn't know that "claim" means "assertion", I'll log that under not an issue.
(February 17, 2010 at 5:57 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: More American imbeciles - yeah great... line em up.
It's the country with the most Christians and the largest world influence. You'd be dumb to dismiss something so glaringly obvious. Did you think that the UK is the world's authority on Christianity?
(February 17, 2010 at 5:57 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You're getting further and further from reality. Try to understand what you're saying.
You're saying religious teachings aren't knowledge. I referred you to bible studies, sunday school, and creationism, which are all taught as fact.
(February 17, 2010 at 5:57 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: What concepts am I mixing? In my/ Christian definition we can know quite a lot. It's a pretty tight framework that is logically consistent. The error was yours in framing it inaccurately.
You're mixing concepts of knowledge and absolute truth. Your christian definition of knowledge apparently is putting in all sorts of crap that confuse you as to the actual meaning of the term. Again, spoonfeeding prevails:
Knowledge is defined by the Oxford English Dictionary as (i) expertise, and skills acquired by a person through experience or education; the theoretical or practical understanding of a subject; (ii) what is known in a particular field or in total; facts and information; or (iii) awareness or familiarity gained by experience of a fact or situation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge
In logic, or the consideration of valid arguments, a proposition is said to have universality if it can be conceived as being true in all possible contexts without creating a contradiction. Some philosophers have referred to such propositions as universalizable. Truth is considered to be universal if it is valid in all times and places. In this case, it is seen as eternal or as absolute. The relativist conception denies the existence of some or all universal truths, particularly ethical ones (through moral relativism).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_truth
I didn't frame anything inaccurately. The context of your post was that we can never know anything.
My point was that many Christians contend that they know (through subjective experiences) that there is a God. This knowledge is covered by the definitions above.
I provided sources which bring this to light:
Here's an article that would hit home:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4648598.stm
Just under half of Britons accept the theory of evolution as the best description for the development of life, according to an opinion poll.
Furthermore, more than 40% of those questioned believe that creationism or intelligent design (ID) should be taught in school science lessons.
This is happening in your country as well. Or will you make the point that this is not taught as knowledge, or people who are making this decision are on the fence about the existence of God?
(February 17, 2010 at 5:57 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: And you'd be totally wrong in my case.
So you base your belief on nothing. Congratulations, you're insane.