(February 18, 2010 at 1:01 pm)objectivitees Wrote:(February 18, 2010 at 12:58 pm)tavarish Wrote: The source of morality, whether religious or not, has always come from the same place - societal norms. There was morality before religion, just as there will be afterwards.
We wouldn't get very far as a species if we went around killing everyone and taking all of their stuff.
It goes on the principle of the golden rule, which rings true in animals as well: Treat other the way you would like to be treated. Conversely, don't do anything that you wouldn't want done to you.
Pretty simple actually.
There is no such such thing as a objective moral standard.(Emphasis added)
So, your answer to my question is "no"? If that's the case, is the "golden rule" objective?
The golden rule, although objective, does not apply solely to morality. It is an evolutionary mechanism that allows the species to survive without killing itself. it is simply put, a survival instinct.
This golden rule, when applied to morality, is subjective, as it is SUBJECT to societal norms. This is where the details of human life come in.
I'll give an example: Slavery is regarded as immoral in western society, but when it was prevalent, it was a perfectly legitimized practice by most.
Morality is a concept adopted by societies to allow or prohibit certain practices that are/aren't in tune with their particular ideologies.