RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism?
February 22, 2010 at 11:18 am
(This post was last modified: February 22, 2010 at 11:22 am by tavarish.)
(February 22, 2010 at 11:03 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(February 22, 2010 at 10:45 am)tavarish Wrote: I'm asking about his personal experiences that led him to believe, since he has claimed in the past that he has had revealing experiences with the divine.
Please show me where I made this claim.
We've already established that you can't accept that I have no superstitious mumbo jumbo to support my belief.
I HAVE HAD NO REVEALING EXPERIENCES WITH THE DIVINE. Though I doubt you'll notice this.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-2822-page-27.html
fr0d0 wrote:
God, by his nature is not independently verifiable. Christians can verify God _personally_, and can confirm and test this with others adopting the belief.
What you cannot do is have proof of God that transfers from one person to another. It's a personal verification thing. Does that make it clear?
How do I know personally that my God is true? I test my notion of God every moment and it pans out. Did I dodge again?
My logical position is built upon in depth consideration of data presented. I can and have related those to you and continue to form and consider my logical position.
My data isn't in subjective experience, but in the logic I'm presenting to you. My subjective experience just serves to affirm that logic, and would be insubstantial to your consideration.
You have relayed no data other than circular logic that is self-validating and simply broken. You have spoken of no subjective experiences, even though I've asked you many times to illustrate your personal experiences, of which you said you have had in the quotes above. If proof of God needs personal verification, what is yours? Self-validating logic based on impossible objectivity?