(February 23, 2010 at 11:24 am)tavarish Wrote: You said "God just is".
"Is" is a conjugation of the verb "be".
The definition of "be" is to exist.
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=be
exist: have an existence, be extant;
In another post you said "I don't believe in God's existence, I believe in God".
Seriously, what does that mean?
You don't believe in God's existence, but he just "is" (exists).
It makes no sense.
Nice word juggling. We've been here before. 'be' doesn't apply. 'is' applies. To believe in gods existence would be to focus on that. I don't. My focus is on him, not the totally irrelevant matter of his potential and theoretical 'existence'. You say you were a Christian but had no rationality in that belief. you were crazy then. Plain and simple. You never understood what it was to believe?
(February 23, 2010 at 11:24 am)tavarish Wrote: I am genuinely interested. I can assure you that. If you mean genuinely interested and not skeptical then that's a different story. What is a God attribute? Can you explain it a bit more?
You want to understand something you have never encountered before? Without wanting to explore the territory? I'm skeptical. Nothing wrong with that.. it's healthy. Cutting off your nose to stop you smelling anything isn't the way to go about experiencing smell.
By 'God attribute' I was referring to the standard Christian amalgamation of attributes.
(February 23, 2010 at 11:24 am)tavarish Wrote: Did I commit a logical fallacy? Did I beg the question?
It seems you live logical fallacy.
(February 23, 2010 at 11:24 am)tavarish Wrote: What were these questions?
Legion
(February 23, 2010 at 11:24 am)tavarish Wrote: This is a realization leading to a leap of faith. It is contingent with an experience that leads you to a religious worldview.
This wasn't a realisation any more than an understanding of a rational position. There was never any 'experience' that lead me. My rational position reflected my thoughts. I could not help be what my rationalisation made me.
In the revelation of your own experience you (I apologize for by abrupt translation) realised what you were thinking was bullshit and changed belief to be what it always was in reality. Your rational position never altered from one of dismissal.
(February 23, 2010 at 11:24 am)tavarish Wrote: You're digressing from the topic a bit. I'm not saying anything about people making decisions for themselves or not. I'm asking you what experiences YOU HAVE HAD personally to affirm this belief in God. Specific examples por favor. I'm not asking you to speak for anyone else.
Nothing I have experienced affirms my belief in God. I am brutally critical of anything I experience and am very focussed on keeping it grounded. My belief is reliant upon constant application of faith. It's the journey that helps me learn what it is I'm doing.
