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More Evidence...as if it were needed...that White Evangelicals
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RE: More Evidence...as if it were needed...that White Evangelicals
(January 5, 2014 at 6:22 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Err, I wouldn't say that's true.

The Conservatives are much more 'religious' than either the centre or the left, at least currently. Sure, under New Labour you had the increasing domination of the Christian Socialist Movement headed up by people like Blair and Brown, but in all honesty, the NL movement was much more right wing than left.

How are the conservatives more religious? the fulcrum is where the median of the country is and it changes. NL were still to the left of the Conservative party.

Quote:Indeed, the expansion of policies on things such as faith schools were advocated first by centre-right MPs under NL and then supported (and currently expanded on) by Conservatives through policies such as free schools and academies which are often funded by faith NGOs. We certainly do have a religious right, but they're just as obvious as they are in America (where they're fronted by a entire party). New statesman (I know, nobody really reads it) did do a good article: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/201...or-reality

So I just read the article and it really just confirms my viewpoint.

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Evidence from the British Social Attitudes survey suggests that the most religiously observant voters (Catholic and Evangelical alike) tend to be considerably to the left of the general population on economic issues, even while holding extremely conservative views on such issues on gay rights and premarital sex.

The article is trying very hard to try and demonstrate a religious right and fails. There seem to be some tiny fringe groups.

There appear to be 8 MPs who identify as evangelical christians and they are evenly split between Labour and Tory

Faith schools went through a massive expansion under Labour

Quote:There have been controversies about MPs and evolution in the past, especially (again) on faith schools and the support by NL for the Reg Vardy backed Emmanuel college in the mid 2000's who taught creationism as a trump to evolution.

Reg Vardy is a businessman and owns stagecoach. He is not and never has been an MP

Quote:I have no doubt there are certainly MPs in the British parliament who reject evolution. I'm sure a lot of the Northern Ireland MPs would for example.

NI is the most religious part of the UK and certainly the DUP is the party of choice for evangelicals it might be that they have members who do not beleive in Evolution. 2 of their MPS have campaigned for the rights of creationists not to be penalised by the education system for their views and there is widespread homophobia. If Northern Ireland was an independent state then you could legitimately say that there was a religious right UK as a whole -not a chance.


There is NO religious right of any appreciable size whatsoever. The issues that the religious right in the US campaign on are now non issues in the UK. Abortion, teaching creationism/Intelligent design even Gay marriage now that the Conservative party introduced it
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RE: More Evidence...as if it were needed...that White Evangelicals - by là bạn điên - January 5, 2014 at 7:24 am

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