(January 16, 2014 at 10:08 am)Drich Wrote: Freewill as you understand it is not a biblical concept. Matter of fact we are told we are slaves to sin with no completly independant will of our own. The only thing we have resembling free will is the ablity to choose whether or not we want redemption from sin which leads to an eternity with God.
Drich, you are a complete moron. If you have no 'completely independent will of your own', saying you can 'choose' anything is a contradiction, because that necessarily indicates that things could have been otherwise. But you've already ruled that out in your OWN post.
Quote:So why doesn't God reveal Himself? Because it would destroy the point and purpose of this life. To be seperated from the known glory of God so we may demonstrate to ourselves where our hearts truly lie. Do we honestly want to be with God because we Love Him, or do we want to be with God because it benfits us somehow..
Well then, I wonder why he supposedly revealed himself to Moses and the other prophets, to the disciples trhough Jesus, and to Paul? Biblically, doesn't seem to have 'destroyed the point and purpose' of their lives.
And how would it even do that? And how can you claim God's glory is known? Further, if we wanted to be with God because we love him, that's STILL for our benefit: to get the love. And even if it were otherwise, why would it matter?
Quote:If God was known to be real, then it would be a sure bet that Hell was real as well. Then people would flock in droves to line up to go through the motions of Christianity. Which isn't the point of this life. Some of us are going to hell despite if we sit in church from this sunday to every sunday for the rest of our lives. Why? Because God is not a fool and will not be dupped into letting people into Heaven because of a perceived technicality they think they have found. Then they will spend there time in Hell wondering why they were sent there.
Okay Drich, you're describing the real world now. People already do that. If Hell was known to be real, the amount of people actually doing that would close to nil. After all, they KNOW it's real in that case.
Quote:As it is in this life now, the qualities that marks a soul's worthyness for God/Eternal life are manifactured through the trials and hardships we endure. Apart of that is taking that faith of a mustard seed we have been given and using it as we have been instructed, which will eventually yield a great reward.
meaning if we can establish and maintain a relationship with God, from the vacuum of proof and knoweledge of God's glory, then we can be assured of salvation.
This is really just waffle here.
