(January 17, 2014 at 9:38 am)Esquilax Wrote: Ah, I remember you: you were the one who got it into his head that you could tell us what we think.
I'm pointing out what you believe if you only believe in material existence. Seriously though it's pretty straightforward logic you ought to understand this.
Quote:Interestingly, your fiat assertions
If you only believe in matter/energy and what matter energy produces then you're a materialist. That's not an assertion that's what you in fact actually are, if you don't believe in God or the equivalent. I shouldn't have to point this fact out to you. I know that you don't know this for for a fact but I don't know anything for a fact either so that's irrelevant.
Quote: haven't become any more true since you've been gone. Atheism is not a position on non-material things, just gods.
Neither of us believes in the gods of Olympus or whatever and they would have been material beings like ourselves anyway just immortal. So that's completely irreverent to the subject of God or whatever else you want to call it, the eternal non-physical creator/purpose of existence, the higher power the source of morality and freewill. If you reject the existence in of this in favor of physical/natural explanations, which is what you're doing, then you're a materialist. Materialism is a valid position to take but it would help if you understand your own position.
Quote:As such, your entire position is incorrect, and so you can stow it right now.
Do you believe in something beyond the physical/the supernatural or don't you? This is a yes or no answer question.
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