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Poll: Your loved one was murdered in cold-blood.
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They should be imprisoned for life.
26.67%
8 26.67%
They should be executed by the State.
13.33%
4 13.33%
I should have the right to kill them myself.
23.33%
7 23.33%
Executing murderers is morally wrong.
26.67%
8 26.67%
Executing murderers is morally right.
10.00%
3 10.00%
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The DEATH Penalty
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RE: Is the death penalty cruel and unusual punishment by definition?
(January 18, 2014 at 1:08 am)Zen Badger Wrote: The death penalty should be reserved for the irredeemably evil serial paedophiles, murderers and the like.

People for whom there is no chance of change or redemption.

Unfortunately there tends to be an inverse relationship between the narrowness of the criteria and the effectiveness of the entire scheme. The more constrained the criteria, the more difficult it is to definitively demonstrate that an individual meets that criteria. This has two effects, it raises the administrative costs associated with capital punishment beyond all reason, and it also makes the process more fallible so that a larger percentage of the class which is deserving of the punishment escapes the administrative process designed to ensure that those in the class are punished. There's also the problem of reversible harm in that, if, as an exception to the general rule of not executing "ordinary" criminals, an innocent or ordinary criminal is punished under this criteria, that makes the relative magnitude of the error greater. (For example, suppose now you would execute 5% of murderers, amounting to 684 in one year in the U.S., and two happen to be innocent. Compare this to the case where you execute 0.05% of murderers, or 7 in one year, and one turns out to be innocent. The relative harm done to the innocent is greater.)


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RE: The DEATH Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 19, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by FlyingNarwhal - January 19, 2014 at 1:45 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 19, 2014 at 2:11 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by FlyingNarwhal - January 19, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 19, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by EgoRaptor - January 19, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 19, 2014 at 1:30 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by EgoRaptor - January 19, 2014 at 1:33 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Cinjin - January 19, 2014 at 1:34 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 19, 2014 at 1:41 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by EgoRaptor - January 19, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Angrboda - January 19, 2014 at 2:27 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by KUSA - January 19, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Chad32 - January 19, 2014 at 2:46 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 19, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by EgoRaptor - January 19, 2014 at 3:14 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Minimalist - January 19, 2014 at 4:04 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Chad32 - January 19, 2014 at 4:13 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 19, 2014 at 4:12 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by FlyingNarwhal - January 19, 2014 at 5:10 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 19, 2014 at 5:00 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Cinjin - January 19, 2014 at 5:06 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Angrboda - January 19, 2014 at 5:14 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Cinjin - January 19, 2014 at 5:29 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Angrboda - January 19, 2014 at 5:57 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Minimalist - January 19, 2014 at 5:31 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Chad32 - January 19, 2014 at 5:35 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Cinjin - January 19, 2014 at 5:39 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Minimalist - January 19, 2014 at 5:42 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Chad32 - January 19, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Cinjin - January 19, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Chad32 - January 19, 2014 at 5:49 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Cinjin - January 19, 2014 at 6:34 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Angrboda - January 19, 2014 at 7:35 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Violet - January 20, 2014 at 1:23 am
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by kılıç_mehmet - January 20, 2014 at 1:31 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Autumnlicious - January 21, 2014 at 1:34 am
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by kılıç_mehmet - January 21, 2014 at 4:36 am
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Chad32 - January 20, 2014 at 2:14 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Tiberius - January 21, 2014 at 3:43 am
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Chad32 - January 21, 2014 at 10:32 am
RE: Is the death penalty cruel and unusual punishment by definition? - by Angrboda - January 18, 2014 at 1:21 am
The DEATH Penalty - by Cinjin - January 19, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Chad32 - January 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Cinjin - January 19, 2014 at 1:00 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Minimalist - January 19, 2014 at 12:58 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Cinjin - January 19, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Minimalist - January 19, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Chad32 - January 19, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Cinjin - January 19, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by EgoRaptor - January 19, 2014 at 1:01 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Cinjin - January 19, 2014 at 1:05 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by EgoRaptor - January 19, 2014 at 1:08 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by Cinjin - January 19, 2014 at 1:12 pm
RE: The DEATH Penalty - by EgoRaptor - January 19, 2014 at 1:15 pm

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