Quote:The atheist is obligate, by logical implications of naturalistic philosophies, to oppose anything that would allow for the human race to not advance. Gay marriage, free compulsory education, democracy. They would also have to admit the morality of slavery all things considered. What is being said is that Atheists have no reason to suppose that their is a predisposed moral framework and that they could not in any way condemn people for doing what they wished according to their own standpoints. While many people would say that murder is wrong, it is simply practical, murder is wrong because we do not want to get murdered.
Quote:You could potentially say it is wrong for yourself, but that's as far as it can go. An atheist can say, "I don't want to kill people because I don't like the fact that other people have to suffer and die." However, you cannot say that someone else doesn't have the right to kill someone, because you would be developing an objective moral framework without an objective lawgiver.
Quote: where can they draw an objective line and say "this is wrong." You can't, if God is not in the picture.
I'm sure there's a lot of ideas about objective and subjective morality outside of the Bible. Isn't there a whole section of philosophy for the subject?
"The consolations of philosophy and the beauties of science; these things are infinitely more awe-inspiring and regenerating and majestic than any invocation of the burning bush or doctrine." - Christopher Hitchens
