RE: Atheism Leads to Inequality
January 20, 2014 at 8:37 pm
(This post was last modified: January 20, 2014 at 8:38 pm by Mudhammam.)
(January 20, 2014 at 8:31 pm)InevitableCheese Wrote:Quote:The atheist is obligate, by logical implications of naturalistic philosophies, to oppose anything that would allow for the human race to not advance. Gay marriage, free compulsory education, democracy. They would also have to admit the morality of slavery all things considered. What is being said is that Atheists have no reason to suppose that their is a predisposed moral framework and that they could not in any way condemn people for doing what they wished according to their own standpoints. While many people would say that murder is wrong, it is simply practical, murder is wrong because we do not want to get murdered.
Quote:You could potentially say it is wrong for yourself, but that's as far as it can go. An atheist can say, "I don't want to kill people because I don't like the fact that other people have to suffer and die." However, you cannot say that someone else doesn't have the right to kill someone, because you would be developing an objective moral framework without an objective lawgiver.
Quote: where can they draw an objective line and say "this is wrong." You can't, if God is not in the picture.
I'm sure there's a lot of ideas about objective and subjective morality outside of the Bible. Isn't there a whole section of philosophy for the subject?
"I deem murder to be immoral" is no less a conversation-stopper than "God deems murder to be immoral." God is an unnecessary extra step and tantamount to saying, "God says murder is immoral and so murder is immoral because God says it is immoral." Since value judgments regarding the moral nature of God are made by humans, all value judgments are made by humans.