Quote:"I deem murder to be immoral" is no less a conversation-stopper than "God deems murder to be immoral." God is an unnecessary extra step and tantamount to saying, "God says murder is immoral and so murder is immoral because God says it is immoral." Since value judgments regarding the moral nature of God are made by humans, all value judgments are made by humans.
Well, of course they don't believe it was made by humans. They believe it was made through man by God. God revealing his character and such.
"The consolations of philosophy and the beauties of science; these things are infinitely more awe-inspiring and regenerating and majestic than any invocation of the burning bush or doctrine." - Christopher Hitchens