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GOOD Apologetics?
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RE: GOOD Apologetics?
Personally, I do think Drich is not far from the mark. Proof of the existence of God comes from God and not from speculations about him. Natural revelation that comes from reflection on the nature of reality only takes you about as far as a basic Spinoza-style pantheism or Berkeley's ultimate observer type of god.* Anything beyond that requires God to present Himself, either personally in the form of ASK or through the Word.

*My own belief is that both Spinoza and Berkeley got it half right. Swedenborg combines these into a God of two distinct but united principles: Divine Love and Divine Truth. Divine Love is the infinite potential of raw being. Divine Truth is the informing principle that shapes and guides that potential. This union is entirely consistent with our current scientific understanding of reality (foam + constants) and also satisfies the ancient dilemma between the persistence of being and constant change.

(January 25, 2014 at 12:27 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: I always love when Christians make up some bullshit story about their life prior to being saved.
I would not be so quick to dismiss the testimony of Christians. Some of us recognize our need for a savior only after hitting our rock bottom. YMMV.
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GOOD Apologetics? - by ThePinsir - January 23, 2014 at 9:54 am
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Drich - January 23, 2014 at 10:13 am
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by FlyingNarwhal - January 23, 2014 at 10:20 am
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Drich - January 23, 2014 at 10:24 am
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Michael Schubert - January 25, 2014 at 8:09 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - January 23, 2014 at 11:10 am
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Drich - January 23, 2014 at 11:24 am
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by ThePinsir - January 23, 2014 at 10:24 am
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Whateverist - January 24, 2014 at 11:54 am
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Drich - January 24, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Mister Agenda - January 23, 2014 at 12:14 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Drich - January 23, 2014 at 12:39 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Minimalist - January 23, 2014 at 12:19 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by truthBtold - January 23, 2014 at 12:29 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by MindForgedManacle - January 24, 2014 at 10:53 am
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - January 24, 2014 at 11:21 am
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Drich - January 24, 2014 at 11:36 am
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Minimalist - January 24, 2014 at 12:00 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Crossless1 - January 24, 2014 at 12:44 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by MindForgedManacle - January 25, 2014 at 12:27 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Neo-Scholastic - January 25, 2014 at 1:53 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by MindForgedManacle - January 25, 2014 at 2:30 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Whateverist - January 26, 2014 at 12:40 am
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Brian37 - January 25, 2014 at 2:22 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Ryantology - January 25, 2014 at 8:03 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Neo-Scholastic - January 25, 2014 at 8:22 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Ryantology - January 25, 2014 at 8:30 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Ryantology - January 26, 2014 at 12:48 am
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Neo-Scholastic - January 28, 2014 at 10:35 am
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Ryantology - January 28, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by truthBtold - January 28, 2014 at 3:01 pm
RE: GOOD Apologetics? - by Ryantology - January 28, 2014 at 3:11 pm

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