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Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament
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RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament
(January 26, 2014 at 12:16 pm)Drich Wrote:
(January 26, 2014 at 11:26 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Okay. Totally missed the point. But despite responding with appeal to an incoherent conception of a singular nature that consists of three distinct and separate identities,
You can try and dismiss this, but it happened to be the central theme of Christianity.

Quote:you still have no rationalization for the general concept that "innocent blood" "cleanses" "sin,"
because you did not ask for one.

Quote: which was taken quite literally by biblical authors, or for the idea that killing livestock due to their "moral innocence" could somehow balance out bad behavior.
live stock was used because that is the president God Himself set to cover the sin and shame by Adam and Eve.

Children were not used in genesis three animals were that is why using children is not acceptable and certain live stock were.

Quote:Again, I ask, what's more innocent than a child?
in the OT a lamb, in the NT Christ.

Quote: one has a really "big" sin to account for, what could possibly be better than offering one's own child as a "four-fold payment"?
as I have already demonstrated child sacrifice was not suitable for anything concerning cleansing sin.

Quote:GC has already demonstrated that this is the logic Yahweh operates on in his admission that David "paid" for his sins by the death of his newborn, Jesus "paid" for our sins by shedding his human blood, and yet--oh no, child sacrifice is far too abhorrent to even consider the possibility that Yahweh could accept such a thing! Please, come back with a bit of sense, will ya?

Then all gc or you have to do to cement your point is provide book chapter and verse that supports this connection that your argument hinges on. GC may be representing a specific church doctrine which is fine, and there is no sin about it. If however you are concerned with what the God of the bible thinks then it is on you to provide book chapter and verse to support your assertion. Otherwise know you or whomever else has created a picture of God that is not supported scripturaly.

I did. And beyond what the texts themselves describe, I further interpreted them in light of the general principle that Yahweh operates on, which is the purification of sin through the shedding of innocent blood, while you appealed to some contrary system of values (your own, presumably). I also pointed out that Hebrew scholars, who study the texts and the culture, also reach similar conclusions, and therefore it is something you should at least consider as a possibility. On the one hand, you do consider it a possibility, because lambs and Jesus are sufficient blood sacrifices due to their "innocence" (though I don't think animals are morally "innocent" or "guilty"), but on the other hand, IT CANNOT BE CHILDREN, which you demand for arbitrary reasons that not even Yahweh takes seriously, evidenced in the case of Jephthah, Abraham, David, and of course, his own "son," Jesus.
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Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 20, 2014 at 8:18 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Violet - January 20, 2014 at 9:56 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 20, 2014 at 10:22 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Violet - January 20, 2014 at 10:25 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Minimalist - January 20, 2014 at 11:32 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Godschild - January 21, 2014 at 1:28 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 21, 2014 at 1:52 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Godschild - January 21, 2014 at 3:12 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 21, 2014 at 3:29 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Esquilax - January 21, 2014 at 3:51 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Godschild - January 21, 2014 at 3:14 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 21, 2014 at 4:14 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Godschild - January 23, 2014 at 2:23 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Minimalist - January 21, 2014 at 1:44 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by truthBtold - January 21, 2014 at 3:55 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 21, 2014 at 9:33 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 21, 2014 at 11:18 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 21, 2014 at 10:14 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Polaris - January 21, 2014 at 10:32 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 22, 2014 at 12:57 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 22, 2014 at 1:58 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 22, 2014 at 6:41 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Minimalist - January 21, 2014 at 10:49 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Angrboda - January 22, 2014 at 2:13 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 22, 2014 at 9:46 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 22, 2014 at 10:38 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 22, 2014 at 11:43 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 22, 2014 at 5:14 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 23, 2014 at 1:13 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 23, 2014 at 8:55 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Godschild - January 23, 2014 at 6:28 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 23, 2014 at 7:32 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Godschild - January 24, 2014 at 9:16 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 24, 2014 at 5:04 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Godschild - January 25, 2014 at 7:03 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by truthBtold - January 22, 2014 at 9:43 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Minimalist - January 22, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Angrboda - January 23, 2014 at 1:48 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 23, 2014 at 2:01 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 23, 2014 at 2:45 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Lemonvariable72 - January 23, 2014 at 10:10 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 23, 2014 at 11:47 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 24, 2014 at 3:36 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 24, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 24, 2014 at 10:23 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 26, 2014 at 9:26 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 26, 2014 at 9:41 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 26, 2014 at 11:15 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 26, 2014 at 11:26 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 26, 2014 at 12:16 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 26, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 26, 2014 at 2:28 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 26, 2014 at 4:40 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Lemonvariable72 - January 24, 2014 at 10:53 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 24, 2014 at 11:48 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Lemonvariable72 - January 25, 2014 at 12:16 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Godschild - January 23, 2014 at 5:34 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Minimalist - January 24, 2014 at 5:37 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by truthBtold - January 24, 2014 at 5:50 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 24, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by truthBtold - January 24, 2014 at 5:54 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Minimalist - January 24, 2014 at 5:59 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Minimalist - January 24, 2014 at 7:33 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 25, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Minimalist - January 25, 2014 at 5:02 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 25, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Minimalist - January 25, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 26, 2014 at 6:22 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 26, 2014 at 6:28 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Godschild - January 26, 2014 at 9:55 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 27, 2014 at 12:04 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Godschild - January 27, 2014 at 1:30 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by truthBtold - January 27, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Godschild - January 28, 2014 at 12:56 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by truthBtold - January 28, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 28, 2014 at 12:09 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Tonus - January 27, 2014 at 4:44 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Mudhammam - January 27, 2014 at 5:30 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 27, 2014 at 1:05 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Minimalist - January 26, 2014 at 10:42 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 27, 2014 at 4:23 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Drich - January 27, 2014 at 11:15 pm
RE: Child Sacrifice in the Old Testament - by Minimalist - January 27, 2014 at 4:33 pm

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