(January 27, 2014 at 2:30 pm)orangebox21 Wrote:(January 24, 2014 at 12:59 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Except that life likely began in the deep ocean with cyano bacteria.
If you believe that cyano bacteria is the origin of life there are certain givens that need to be addressed.
1. You believe that something (in this case cyano bacteria) has always existed. You believe in eternal matter.
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2. You believe something (cyano bacteria) came from nothing. That it wasn't and then was.
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3. You've misunderstoond my question about "origin" and you've cited something that is life but is not itself the origin of life.
I will rule out #3 and assume you understood the question. I will also rule out discussing #2 here as well with the hope that we can all agree that it is impossible for something to come from nothing. Science rules out the possiblity that nothing produces something, it has never been observed, measured, nor repeated.
I dont think Cyano bacteria would have been the first kind of life it would have probably been far simpler the development would have been slow, possibly the moment when organic material became life would be almost impossible to discern but we know it happened because we are here and the alternative explanation that "magic man done it" is silly.
Something from nothing is a possibility.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/201...130038.htm
Quote:under just the right conditions -- which involve an ultra-high-intensity laser beam and a two-mile-long particle accelerator -- it could be possible to create something out of nothing, according to University of Michigan researchers.
Quote:As far as #1 is concerned if you believe in eternal matter the question then becomes what created time? For without time there can be no evolutionary processes (the eternal matter would simply continue to exist as it always had and always will be) and with time evolutionary processes would have been going on eternally and so the universe wouldn't be billions of years old it would be eternally old and so there would be no way to quantify the age of anything. Eternity is eternity.
We don't have enough evidence to answer this question. Any answer other than we don't know is likely to be wrong.
Quote:So back to the initial premise: cyano bacteria has eternally existed
No one has suggested this apart from you.
Quote:(outside the confines of time), then at the origin of life "time" was created and then the evolutionary process began and has now continued. What created time so as to seperate eternity from finite?
Threre are many possible explanations for the beginning of the universe.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=befo...65FC0DAE88
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