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Can objective morality exist in Atheism?
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RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism?
@padriac- Yet Sae still gave kudos... sigh...
No not that all Christian men are good. It's more like all People have the potential to know, instinctively what is right and wrong. That the origins of this are objectively outside and attributed the the absoluteness of God's Moral Law as referenced in the scripture above.

As far as objectifiable I agree it's not. That doesn't mean it's not subjectively falsifiable and peer-reviewed. I would try more towards what Rhizzo was heading at.

@Rhizzo-

Here's a good reference for moral nomianism http://s3.amazonaws.com/tgc-documents/jo...Nelson.pdf
It basically explains that modern interpretation of the mosaic laws classify them as sins against God and sins against the Church. The ritualisting laws prohibiting wearing of mixed fibers, requiring washing of hands, etc. aren't typically required of anyone outside of Judaism. The sins against God are moralistic absolutes derived from God's word on men's hearts and scribed by Moses. Jesus came and told people they were misconstruing the laws and expanded some of them to be more inclusive. One example would be Kill is a sin against God. Jesus further stipulates that not only killing , but hating is wrong.
Anyways, most Christians follow the ten commandments alone and Jesus' teaching so most Christians would be moral nomianists. Most also have no idea what that term means, they just do what preacher tells them. Big Grin
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
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Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by objectivitees - February 18, 2010 at 12:44 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 12:58 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 1:24 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 1:46 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 2:29 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 3:21 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Meatball - February 18, 2010 at 3:33 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Tiberius - February 18, 2010 at 3:23 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 3:40 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2010 at 3:53 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 4:39 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Darwinian - February 18, 2010 at 4:09 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Darwinian - February 18, 2010 at 4:36 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 5:43 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 6:32 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by theVOID - February 18, 2010 at 6:47 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by theVOID - February 18, 2010 at 7:14 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by theVOID - February 18, 2010 at 8:31 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 8:32 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 7:36 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Darwinian - February 18, 2010 at 6:46 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Zen Badger - February 19, 2010 at 7:39 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 19, 2010 at 10:41 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Zen Badger - February 20, 2010 at 2:56 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by padraic - February 20, 2010 at 3:29 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 20, 2010 at 12:49 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by padraic - February 20, 2010 at 7:12 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 20, 2010 at 9:04 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tackattack - February 20, 2010 at 9:43 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Zen Badger - February 20, 2010 at 9:50 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by padraic - February 21, 2010 at 12:16 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Zen Badger - February 21, 2010 at 1:15 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by theVOID - February 21, 2010 at 2:23 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by padraic - February 21, 2010 at 1:37 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Shell B - February 21, 2010 at 2:54 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tackattack - February 21, 2010 at 2:58 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Shell B - February 21, 2010 at 3:03 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 21, 2010 at 10:59 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Zen Badger - February 21, 2010 at 8:10 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 21, 2010 at 8:33 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Zen Badger - February 21, 2010 at 8:55 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by theVOID - February 21, 2010 at 9:33 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Shell B - February 21, 2010 at 8:14 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Zen Badger - February 21, 2010 at 8:29 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by fr0d0 - February 21, 2010 at 8:35 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 21, 2010 at 11:47 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by theVOID - February 22, 2010 at 12:42 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Shell B - February 21, 2010 at 8:41 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by objectivitees - February 23, 2010 at 12:39 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Zen Badger - February 24, 2010 at 2:05 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Tiberius - February 26, 2010 at 7:09 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Violet - February 22, 2010 at 2:39 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 22, 2010 at 10:45 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 11:03 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by theVOID - February 22, 2010 at 11:17 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 12:21 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Darwinian - February 22, 2010 at 2:31 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 22, 2010 at 3:53 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by theVOID - February 22, 2010 at 8:24 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 22, 2010 at 11:18 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 4:23 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Violet - February 22, 2010 at 4:40 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 5:01 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 1:55 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 2:40 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 4:19 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 9:59 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 23, 2010 at 1:53 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by fr0d0 - February 23, 2010 at 9:20 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 23, 2010 at 11:24 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by fr0d0 - February 23, 2010 at 3:34 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Shell B - February 23, 2010 at 3:59 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tavarish - February 23, 2010 at 4:18 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tackattack - February 24, 2010 at 4:33 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by padraic - February 24, 2010 at 4:41 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Chad Farris - February 27, 2010 at 2:28 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Mandi - March 8, 2010 at 6:36 pm
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by tackattack - March 10, 2010 at 12:28 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by padraic - March 10, 2010 at 4:06 am
RE: Can objective morality exist in Atheism? - by Violet - March 10, 2010 at 5:16 am

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