(January 29, 2014 at 9:08 am)TaraJo Wrote:(January 28, 2014 at 10:46 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: Vegans in general tend to have dumb reasons for being vegan. But not all of them. Just most. The ones saying milk is poison? They have dumb reasons, I guarantee it.
Yeah, a lot of the time. And sometimes, when their reasons aren't as dumb, they still have a habit of falling for dumb pseudo-science from groups like PETA. I knew a girl who was vegan because she didn't want to support cruelty to animals, and I can respect that (even if I don't agree with her), but then she started preaching all this crap from PETA videos like it's undeniable fact. It wasn't even 5 minutes into one of them when I realized they fucked up big time.
If you want to talk about health benefits, though, that's a damn big advantage vegans have over non-vegans. They tend to have issues with protein, but their cholesterol levels are amazing compared to ours. And, anyway, any vegan with a little sense knows how to get protein, anyway.
Fuck, tell me about it. Every time a vegan mentions PETA I tune waaay the fuck out. What they are talking about amounts to a big giant glass of Nope to my desire to listen to them. I wouldn't mind PETA so much if they dropped the militant stances, the circle-jerking arrogance that they are right and all others are wrong, the seriously uncomfortable amount of misogyny they display in things like their commercials, and their kowtowing exclusively to vegans and ostracizing everyone else.
As for health benefits, you are semi-correct. Thing is, high quality protein like whey protein is incompatible with total veganism since it comes from cheese, and while health-wise it's not so big of a deal, it's very, very effective for physical fitness due to its musculature-building properties. And then you have "brain foods," which no vegetables or fruits will provide you, requiring you to take supplements...which are derived from eggs, fish, and/or meats...ergo incompatible with veganism.
Vitamin B12. Nuff said. Vegans may have lower cholesterol, sure, but you guys also almost universally suffer from problems in the brain, including the wildly increased risk of Alzheimer's, mental health problems, and even having a smaller brain. That's just the first thing and already I have NO intention of ever becoming a vegan; I don't want my damn brain shrinking! It's poorly-wired as it is!
Then there's creatine, Vitamin D3 deficiency, carnosine (EXCLUSIVELY from animal flesh, cannot be obtained except from animal flesh specifically, and has an ENORMOUS impact on reducing the agin process), and finally DHA. Vegans are going to be deficient in all of these rather important vitamins which are all incapable of being derived from a vegan diet, due to supplements having to come from animals who are killed in the process of making them.Yeah...I think I prefer the health benefits of my omnivorous diet over the "fighting evolution" herbivorous diet of vegans...I like my brain to be not be falling apart, my muscles to be retaining energy and absorbing adrenaline, having adequate cognitive functioning, and all that stuff.
On top of that, there really ISN'T any proven health benefit to veganism. At all. Cholesterol can be easily managed in a meat-eating diet, especially if meat is only consumed like once a week or so, so that's not exclusive to a vegan diet.
Not to bash on ya or anything Tara, just going by the facts:
http://authoritynutrition.com/5-brain-nu...fish-eggs/
It cites all of its sources, too. Kinda hard to argue with it.
