(February 2, 2014 at 11:18 pm)Lek Wrote: What I'm trying to do is open closed-minded people to the possibility that something may well exist that is beyond the scope of our ability to find it through scientific discovery.I suspect that from this point, we will begin to discuss other methods of "finding" this otherwise undetectable being. Which would be useful if there was one method that always worked unequivocally versus other methods that never did. But that's not the case, as the various religions and cults and other similar belief systems attest to, many of them with their own ways of getting into contact with that magic being. And those methods inevitably rely on a dizzying array of rules of conduct and specific practices that coincidentally guarantee that you can easily dismiss claims from anyone who doesn't "find" this being.
So either he's not there, or he discovered a cure for boredom and has spent the last few thousand years laughing his undetectable ass off.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould