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Introducing The Universal Religion
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RE: Introducing The Universal Religion
(February 11, 2014 at 8:46 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: There's evidence for material things but that could have all been created by God or is underpinned by an eternal non-material conscious or purpose driven force.
For this claim to be anywhere near substantial, you must first be able to demonstrate the existence of god and rigorously define its attributes.
Quote:Materialism who state that only the matter exists, the matter in itself has no purpose or intelligence but can somehow create intelligence when it is arranged in a certain form such as the human brain. You can't prove either scenario just by looking at the material stuff we can see though therefore it's a case of what you believe to be true.
Nonsense. Heard of neurology?
Quote:Materialism is the statement that physical matter/energy is eternal and is all there is exist and our existence is dependent upon matter arranged in a form. It's not something you could see and demonstrate to be true it's just what you believe is true. In sense you're really only doing the same thing. This is an idea/philosophy about the ultimate nature of existence.
Again nonsense. Heard of science? That's us demonstrating this every day.
Quote:You can't "prove God" and you can't prove your materialist philosophy either so it's a stalemate.
Yet more nonsense. No-one has ever demonstrated god but this electronic conversation is proof of materialism.
Quote:You're doing the same thing yourself even if you don't understand that you're doing it.
Nope. You only think that because you misunderstand the subject matter and the facts which support it.
Quote:You can't really claim atheism/materialism as the default either seeing as belief in the unseen aspect of reality seems to be as old as the human species itself.
Belief in the supernatural has nothing to do with the fully supported and logical fact that atheism is the default position and 'material' causes are the most documented explanations for the facts (as opposed to 'immaterial' causes which have never been any kind of explanation for anything ever).
Sum ergo sum
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Introducing The Universal Religion - by jideoni charles - February 2, 2014 at 10:51 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by LostLocke - February 2, 2014 at 11:10 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Cato - February 2, 2014 at 11:13 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by houseofcantor - February 2, 2014 at 11:15 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Bad Wolf - February 2, 2014 at 11:26 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Esquilax - February 2, 2014 at 11:28 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Minimalist - February 2, 2014 at 11:32 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by BrokenQuill92 - February 2, 2014 at 11:40 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by LostLocke - February 2, 2014 at 11:55 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Cyberman - February 2, 2014 at 12:01 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by jideoni charles - February 2, 2014 at 1:08 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Cyberman - February 2, 2014 at 1:22 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Esquilax - February 2, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Cato - February 2, 2014 at 2:07 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Angrboda - February 2, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by FlyingNarwhal - February 2, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Cato - February 2, 2014 at 5:55 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by LostLocke - February 3, 2014 at 10:45 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Ryantology - February 2, 2014 at 6:05 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Faith No More - February 3, 2014 at 11:05 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Jacob(smooth) - February 3, 2014 at 11:53 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Alex K - February 3, 2014 at 12:02 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Cato - February 3, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by jideoni charles - February 4, 2014 at 2:12 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Alex K - February 4, 2014 at 2:51 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Napoléon - February 4, 2014 at 4:39 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by jideoni charles - February 4, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Esquilax - February 4, 2014 at 12:54 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by FlyingNarwhal - February 4, 2014 at 6:47 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Jacob(smooth) - February 4, 2014 at 6:50 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by FlyingNarwhal - February 9, 2014 at 6:26 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Jacob(smooth) - February 10, 2014 at 6:32 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Jacob(smooth) - February 4, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Cyberman - February 4, 2014 at 3:15 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Cyberman - February 4, 2014 at 6:56 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Jacob(smooth) - February 4, 2014 at 7:05 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Esquilax - February 5, 2014 at 12:13 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 7, 2014 at 12:21 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Bad Wolf - February 7, 2014 at 12:29 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by jideoni charles - February 7, 2014 at 1:43 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Cyberman - February 9, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Faith No More - February 7, 2014 at 1:48 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by SteelCurtain - February 7, 2014 at 2:15 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 9, 2014 at 7:37 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by jideoni charles - February 10, 2014 at 2:15 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Alex K - February 10, 2014 at 8:45 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by EvolutionKills - February 10, 2014 at 5:49 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 10, 2014 at 6:40 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by EvolutionKills - February 10, 2014 at 7:07 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Cyberman - February 10, 2014 at 12:47 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 10, 2014 at 1:25 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by EvolutionKills - February 11, 2014 at 1:07 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 11, 2014 at 7:22 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Alex K - February 11, 2014 at 8:10 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 11, 2014 at 8:46 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Esquilax - February 11, 2014 at 8:56 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Ben Davis - February 11, 2014 at 9:07 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 11, 2014 at 4:02 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Angrboda - February 11, 2014 at 4:40 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 11, 2014 at 4:48 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Alex K - February 11, 2014 at 4:59 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 11, 2014 at 5:18 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Tonus - February 12, 2014 at 7:35 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Cyberman - February 14, 2014 at 11:03 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Esquilax - February 11, 2014 at 8:23 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Tonus - February 11, 2014 at 9:48 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by EvolutionKills - February 11, 2014 at 11:05 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Cyberman - February 14, 2014 at 10:38 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by jideoni charles - February 10, 2014 at 11:45 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Alex K - February 10, 2014 at 4:50 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Jacob(smooth) - February 10, 2014 at 4:59 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Tonus - February 10, 2014 at 11:52 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Angrboda - February 11, 2014 at 12:10 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by SteelCurtain - February 11, 2014 at 12:30 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Alex K - February 11, 2014 at 2:31 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Alex K - February 11, 2014 at 9:00 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Bad Wolf - February 11, 2014 at 9:53 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Alex K - February 11, 2014 at 5:31 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 11, 2014 at 6:01 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Angrboda - February 12, 2014 at 1:40 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Cato - February 12, 2014 at 7:17 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by jideoni charles - February 11, 2014 at 5:31 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Alex K - February 11, 2014 at 5:35 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Alex K - February 12, 2014 at 3:13 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 12, 2014 at 8:34 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Alex K - February 12, 2014 at 8:42 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 12, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Esquilax - February 12, 2014 at 9:33 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 12, 2014 at 9:41 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Esquilax - February 12, 2014 at 9:50 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by LostLocke - February 12, 2014 at 9:35 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by EvolutionKills - February 12, 2014 at 9:46 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Alex K - February 12, 2014 at 9:58 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Esquilax - February 12, 2014 at 8:57 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Alex K - February 12, 2014 at 9:04 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Angrboda - February 12, 2014 at 9:36 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Napoléon - February 12, 2014 at 11:47 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Alex K - February 12, 2014 at 12:30 pm
Introducing The Universal Religion - by Rampant.A.I. - February 12, 2014 at 12:09 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 12, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by jideoni charles - February 13, 2014 at 8:43 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Kayenneh - February 13, 2014 at 8:51 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by jideoni charles - February 14, 2014 at 8:50 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Tonus - February 14, 2014 at 8:54 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by jideoni charles - February 14, 2014 at 9:02 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Tonus - February 14, 2014 at 9:03 am
Introducing The Universal Religion - by Rampant.A.I. - February 14, 2014 at 10:39 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Bad Wolf - February 15, 2014 at 8:43 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Napoléon - February 15, 2014 at 10:08 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Bad Wolf - February 15, 2014 at 10:27 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 17, 2014 at 9:53 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Angrboda - February 19, 2014 at 2:16 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Bad Wolf - February 17, 2014 at 9:57 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 17, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Bad Wolf - February 17, 2014 at 1:47 pm
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Sword of Christ - February 19, 2014 at 8:47 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Bad Wolf - February 19, 2014 at 11:38 am
RE: Introducing The Universal Religion - by Cyberman - February 19, 2014 at 9:34 pm
Introducing The Universal Religion - by Rampant.A.I. - February 19, 2014 at 10:05 pm

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