(February 12, 2014 at 7:31 am)Tonus Wrote: Right, you're saying there's no choice. God made us sinners so that he could go through with his grand plan.
No you see we have attained freedom of will from God and this freedom gives the capability to sin/go against God. Genesis give the general overview of this when you have the tree of knowledge of good and evil there. With freewill comes sin and so comes the separation from God and the ultimate death.
Quote:so that he could go through with his grand plan. He could've simply made the plan unnecessary.
It was necessary to tell us what the whole deal is else we wouldn't know.
Quote:Whew! Lucky for god that we're flawed, then!
We're flawed because we're finite beings who can operate independently from God, we have the lower animal nature and the higher God or spiritual nature. The two combine and conflict.
Quote:It would've been even easier not to infect all of humanity with the sin virus and then offer a laughably complex and silly cure.
If we were unable to sin we would have no independence from God and therefore no freewill. God intended us to have freewill so we could have a relationship with him through our own free choice and can be as good or evil as we choose to be.
Quote: Better to have simply extended the original offer to those who came afterwards, but then the Bible would only be about half a paragraph long.
The Bible reveals an eternal truth to us though it was revealed in stages within history.
Come all ye faithful joyful and triumphant.
