(February 12, 2014 at 9:38 am)Bob101 Wrote:(February 12, 2014 at 9:22 am)Psykhronic Wrote: You seem awfully all about 'knowing'. You know what we see is not reality, you know there isn't a logical stand point for Atheism. I have to wonder why someone with such insights is bothering to garner anything from us.
And good luck finding answers about 'not-spacetime', which is where you claimed your adventures in 'truths' lay. If we have no means to measure 'not-spacetime' then you have no means to convince us of anything or any truth regarding such a 'place'.
Exactly!!
Yeah we perceive things.. which means they do not exist how?
That's interesting coming from an Atheist, because if you beleive our perceptions are real, then also hallucinations and dreams have some realness. Which I think they definitely do, but that's another point.
But really, we know that are perceptions of the material world are not the reality of the material world. It is a dance of particles and energy. Colour and sound are just particles and waves. Pretty simple stuff.
And particles and waves exist. Our interpretation of color and sound also exist as a result of these physical properties. I do think dreams and hallucinations have a realness; they take place in the real, physical mind.
But that 'exactly' comment had me chuckle. You cannot even fathom not-spacetime, but you're gonna disregard everything except not-spacetime as truth? How the fuck do you get through the day? Just because there is another "scale" or "place" does not mean this one does not exist.
But you're probs a troll. A very bad one.
