(February 12, 2014 at 1:57 am)là bạn điên Wrote:(February 11, 2014 at 4:53 pm)Isun Wrote: Obama has been less effective then I would like, but look at the his handicap.
Michele? A: Republican party. Michelle has been an asset.
Quote: A party that couldn't care less about their country. A party who is very pleased and works hard to not create jobs.A: The republican party has done everything they can to prevent jobs from being created. They decided they were going to do everything possible to keep the economy down to spite Obama.
What are you talking about?
Quote:A party that has made it their number 1 objective to oppose everything that Obama advocates.
Are you talking about the republicans party? they are the opposition. Why would they support the president? Democrats opposed Bush when he was president.
A: Big difference, democrat party worked with Bush. They may not have always liked the results, but they worked with him and got bills passed. Opposition doesn't mean one should sabotage American progress. But evidently it does to the republican party.
Quote:How many presidents have had to work under that kind of handicap? Not many you can bet.
An opposition party that acted against them? A: None in other words. Th
Quote:As to whether Obama lied about losing one's insurance? They didn't lose their insurance, they just had the policy changed. Quite different. It's just a game that republicans are playing pretending that they lost their insurance.
Rubbish, it was an outright lie. he said 'if you like your policy you can keep it'. They couldn't.
Well, guess we will have to disagree. I do know for example the majority did get to keep their insurance including me. All that happened was that FOX and a few other's made a few like it was almost everyone. Further, if those people who "lost their insurance" looked into the exchange, they would have often gotten better for lower cost.
I know in many cases that FOX lied about more expensive health care. Perfect example was "Betty" that the republicans referred to during their rebuttal of the state of the union address. The claim was that Betty lost their insurance because it was much higher. When the local paper traced her down what they really found out was that she not only never looked at the exchange, but if she had, it would have been cheaper for a lower deductible.
I am not saying all cases are like that, but many are. Yes some will end up paying more, but the many that don't have health care and can't afford it, it will help.
We should have had at the minimum a public option, but Obama kowtowed to republican interests and failed to get implemented the bare minimum. So we are stuck with it. At least we are moving forward from the dysfunctional and failed health care system that we had.
Ideally we should have just extended the medicare system for everyone. It may have cost us more tax wise, but I have no doubt it would have saved us money compared to the current cost of insurance. Further, we need to take off the table negotiations for prices to pharmaceutical company's, hospitals, etc.
