(February 12, 2014 at 8:04 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: With freewill comes sin and so comes the separation from God and the ultimate death.So it seems that our options were to be mindless automatons and live forever, or have the freedom to choose our own path and be mercilessly crushed for it. Honestly, that is a really sucky pair of options.
Sword of Christ Wrote:It was necessary to tell us what the whole deal is else we wouldn't know.I guess writing a guide book before humanity fell wasn't an option, either. God sounds like he really, really wanted humanity to wander into his trap.
Sword of Christ Wrote:We're flawed because we're finite beings who can operate independently from GodIndeed, and god really seems to HATE that. So why arrange for the first humans to gain free will if he knew it would mess everything up?
Sword of Christ Wrote:If we were unable to sin we would have no independence from God and therefore no freewill. God intended us to have freewill so we could have a relationship with him through our own free choice and can be as good or evil as we choose to be.But we don't have free will if we cannot avoid sin. If god forces us to "be sinful" in order to ride to the rescue, he hasn't given us a choice at all. He's just an extortionist.
Sword of Christ Wrote:The Bible reveals an eternal truth to us though it was revealed in stages within history.Which was wholly unnecessary for an almighty god. If we are in a fallen and lowly state that requires the intervention of a savior, it's because that is what god wanted. You worship a being that doesn't make any sense. How could he have created a complex and marvelous universe if he can't even manage two people in a garden without completely screwing it up?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
