The Modal Ontological Argument - Without Modal Logic

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The Modal Ontological Argument - Without Modal Logic

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RE: The Modal Ontological Argument - Without Modal Logic

February 16, 2014 at 5:31 pm

Why are we even bothering with this argument when its first premise is bollocks?

The idea is that "If it's possible God exists then he DOES, so I just have to prove it's possible"?

This is NONSENSE. It's POSSIBLE that all kinds of things exist. This had no bearing at all on whether they do .

First rule of epistemology is you don't let someone get away with a flawed first premise. This premise is so flawed as to be meaningless.

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The Modal Ontological Argument - Without Modal Logic - by Rational AKD - February 13, 2014 at 10:17 pm

RE: The Modal Ontological Argument - Without Modal Logic - by Darkstar - February 13, 2014 at 10:36 pm

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