(February 17, 2014 at 12:58 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: That's why it's called a faith but it's based on rational arguments and evidence. Not scientific proof as you can't ever have that but there is scientific evidence, you have the big bang (moment of creation when time itself began to exist as Biblical theism stated) and the fine tuning/complexity of a life sustaining universe.In one breath you claim that science cannot even detect god, then you go on about how there is scientific evidence. Then you point to theories that don't involve god at all, or that have already been debunked.
Quote:You can't demonstrate atheism or even provide decent arguments to support it as being true.I can "demonstrate atheism" by reading your posts, wherein you admit that you cannot produce god.
Quote:You can prove the sheer likelihood of itYou continue to vacillate between claims that god cannot be found, and that he can be found. That's not a very convincing approach.
Quote:Atheism is destroyedIf I had a nickel for every time some theist claimed that atheism had been destroyed, I'd have a lot of nickels. If I had a nickel for every time atheism was actually destroyed, I'd have no nickels. It's notable that whenever you have to do more than just claim that it's destroyed, you don't even bother to try.
Quote:You're the one who believe in this multiple universe business (something science could demonstrate if it exists) for no other reason than because that's what you want to believe.I haven't said a thing about multiple universes. You either have me confused with someone else or have decided to erect yet another strawman.
Quote:No you have a God it's just the pure madness of over inflated human egotism thinking it is God is the supreme unintelligence of the universe and knows or will know everything there to know about everything. The arguments and rational arguments for the other kind of God destroy this God you believe in.Gibberish. I'm not sure if it's that you've stopped trying or a genuine attempt to explain an insane position.
Quote:Damn right it doesn't but you can have a right opinion and a wrong opinion.You have an opinion that you base on something you admit cannot be detected, and for which you provide painfully bad arguments in support.
Quote:You just have to refute atheism/materialism and by God that's easy enough.Feel free to start whenever you're ready.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould