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Moral Dilemma

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Moral Dilemma
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RE: Moral Dilemma
February 18, 2014 at 5:47 pm
(February 18, 2014 at 5:40 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(February 18, 2014 at 5:10 pm)Tonus Wrote: CD's response seems the most rational to me. The simplest way to look at it is, what action am I taking? I am either directly hurting a person or I am not. It is only my choice to harm the young girl in the room with me, NOT the loved one who is at the mercy of the villain. It is in fact his choice to harm my loved one if I refuse to harm the girl. In that case the choice is easy; I would not rape the young girl. Were our positions reversed, I can imagine that I would be extremely disturbed at the thought that someone violated a child just to spare me from torture.

Not only that, but by raping and impregnating the child, you are now directly responsible for putting an infant (YOUR child) into the hands of a psychopath.

Saving your loved one is the most selfish, least moral choice.

Assuming he was going to let us go, we'd do what we could to rescue the girl and kid. I'm not sure what the point is with the emphasis of it being your kid, though. Yes you're the dad, but it's with a stranger and there's no real planning or bonding or anything. It's like if I donated sperm and found out some stranger had a kid with my sperm. It's not like I'd be asking for visitation rights or anything.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by rexbeccarox - February 17, 2014 at 7:53 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 17, 2014 at 7:55 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 18, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 7:57 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 17, 2014 at 7:57 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 8:01 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 17, 2014 at 9:13 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 9:14 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 17, 2014 at 10:59 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 18, 2014 at 6:33 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 18, 2014 at 6:40 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 18, 2014 at 6:51 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by bennyboy - February 18, 2014 at 6:59 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 18, 2014 at 7:06 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Tonus - February 19, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 18, 2014 at 7:04 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by bennyboy - February 19, 2014 at 10:34 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 17, 2014 at 8:09 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 8:13 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by bennyboy - February 17, 2014 at 9:01 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 17, 2014 at 9:14 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Cinjin - February 17, 2014 at 9:47 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 10:06 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by SteelCurtain - February 17, 2014 at 10:09 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 10:14 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 17, 2014 at 10:15 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by bennyboy - February 18, 2014 at 1:13 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by FlyingNarwhal - February 18, 2014 at 7:12 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 18, 2014 at 6:55 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 18, 2014 at 6:47 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Rahul - February 17, 2014 at 11:00 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 11:37 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 17, 2014 at 11:58 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Rahul - February 18, 2014 at 7:22 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 18, 2014 at 7:17 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Angrboda - February 18, 2014 at 12:28 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 18, 2014 at 7:22 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by JuliaL - February 18, 2014 at 1:29 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by pocaracas - February 18, 2014 at 3:22 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 18, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by pocaracas - February 18, 2014 at 10:55 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2014 at 11:05 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2014 at 4:17 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by No_God - February 18, 2014 at 8:53 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by JuliaL - February 18, 2014 at 10:59 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 18, 2014 at 11:10 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by pocaracas - February 18, 2014 at 11:20 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 18, 2014 at 11:50 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by JuliaL - February 18, 2014 at 12:27 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by paulpablo - February 18, 2014 at 11:18 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by pocaracas - February 18, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by KUSA - February 18, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by paulpablo - February 18, 2014 at 4:42 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 18, 2014 at 5:05 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Tonus - February 18, 2014 at 5:10 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 18, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 18, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 18, 2014 at 5:52 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 18, 2014 at 5:59 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 18, 2014 at 6:06 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 18, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 18, 2014 at 6:26 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2014 at 6:42 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 18, 2014 at 6:09 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 18, 2014 at 7:09 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by KUSA - February 19, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by shep - February 19, 2014 at 3:58 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 19, 2014 at 4:05 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by rexbeccarox - February 19, 2014 at 6:59 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 19, 2014 at 7:24 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by rexbeccarox - February 19, 2014 at 7:35 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 19, 2014 at 7:48 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by bennyboy - February 19, 2014 at 10:49 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 19, 2014 at 11:07 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by bennyboy - February 20, 2014 at 1:27 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 20, 2014 at 7:07 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 19, 2014 at 11:30 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 19, 2014 at 8:04 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 19, 2014 at 7:08 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Rahul - February 19, 2014 at 9:10 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 19, 2014 at 10:34 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 19, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by shep - February 19, 2014 at 10:26 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Psykhronic - February 19, 2014 at 11:04 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 19, 2014 at 11:33 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 20, 2014 at 7:00 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by pocaracas - February 20, 2014 at 7:04 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 20, 2014 at 9:22 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by pocaracas - February 20, 2014 at 9:24 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Dragonetti - February 20, 2014 at 1:34 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by bennyboy - February 20, 2014 at 2:46 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Dragonetti - February 20, 2014 at 2:54 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by pocaracas - February 20, 2014 at 7:32 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 20, 2014 at 5:34 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Tonus - February 20, 2014 at 9:58 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 20, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by FlyingNarwhal - February 20, 2014 at 6:22 pm

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