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Poll: What Would You Do?
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Moral Dilemma
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RE: Moral Dilemma
(February 17, 2014 at 9:13 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I cannot take responsibility for the actions of others. I can take responsibility for my own actions. One choice is morally reprehensible on my part, I cannot own any part of another's moral choices.

Ergo, no moral dilemma.

You're not responsible for calling out the impending demise of that person in front of you... maybe you're right.

Let's see you live with that 'non-responsibility', though. Inaction allows for an awful lot of 'what ifs'. Knowing that you could have saved someone, and didn't...?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Rathbone

It hurts some Wink

(February 18, 2014 at 6:26 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(February 18, 2014 at 6:13 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: I believe it is moral to be selfish & put one's loved one & self first.

I believe that raping children for personal gain is reprehensible and unforgivable.

It is not that you stand to gain, here. Do you believe that your captor will stop with your "loved one"? Do you TRUST your captor to honor the 'choice' you are given? Sleepy

Put yourself there. Your "loved one" is a security element for your captor. If you do not comply, they will deem your loved one as not important enough to you to bend you, AND THEY WILL SEARCH FOR ANOTHER (probably another close "loved one"). Your decision to do nothing will likely lead to suffering far greater than your submission to their will... which is the acting element here: the thing they seek.

Will they really leave your loved one alive after you prove their worthlessness? You, the target, know nothing of what they are capable of. Will you trust in the humanity of one who would force a 14 year old person to be raped by another?
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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Messages In This Thread
Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by rexbeccarox - February 17, 2014 at 7:53 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 17, 2014 at 7:55 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 18, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 7:57 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 17, 2014 at 7:57 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 8:01 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 17, 2014 at 9:13 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 9:14 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 17, 2014 at 10:59 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 18, 2014 at 6:33 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 18, 2014 at 6:40 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 18, 2014 at 6:51 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by bennyboy - February 18, 2014 at 6:59 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 18, 2014 at 7:06 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Tonus - February 19, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 18, 2014 at 7:04 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by bennyboy - February 19, 2014 at 10:34 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 17, 2014 at 8:09 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 8:13 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by bennyboy - February 17, 2014 at 9:01 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 17, 2014 at 9:14 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Cinjin - February 17, 2014 at 9:47 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 10:06 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by SteelCurtain - February 17, 2014 at 10:09 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 10:14 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 17, 2014 at 10:15 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by bennyboy - February 18, 2014 at 1:13 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by FlyingNarwhal - February 18, 2014 at 7:12 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 18, 2014 at 6:55 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 18, 2014 at 6:47 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Rahul - February 17, 2014 at 11:00 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 17, 2014 at 11:37 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 17, 2014 at 11:58 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Rahul - February 18, 2014 at 7:22 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 18, 2014 at 7:17 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Angrboda - February 18, 2014 at 12:28 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 18, 2014 at 7:22 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by JuliaL - February 18, 2014 at 1:29 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by pocaracas - February 18, 2014 at 3:22 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 18, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by pocaracas - February 18, 2014 at 10:55 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2014 at 11:05 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2014 at 4:17 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by No_God - February 18, 2014 at 8:53 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by JuliaL - February 18, 2014 at 10:59 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 18, 2014 at 11:10 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by pocaracas - February 18, 2014 at 11:20 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 18, 2014 at 11:50 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by JuliaL - February 18, 2014 at 12:27 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by paulpablo - February 18, 2014 at 11:18 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by pocaracas - February 18, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by KUSA - February 18, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by paulpablo - February 18, 2014 at 4:42 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 18, 2014 at 5:05 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Tonus - February 18, 2014 at 5:10 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 18, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 18, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 18, 2014 at 5:52 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 18, 2014 at 5:59 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 18, 2014 at 6:06 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 18, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Jackalope - February 18, 2014 at 6:26 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by fr0d0 - February 18, 2014 at 6:42 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 18, 2014 at 6:09 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 18, 2014 at 7:09 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by KUSA - February 19, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by shep - February 19, 2014 at 3:58 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 19, 2014 at 4:05 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by rexbeccarox - February 19, 2014 at 6:59 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 19, 2014 at 7:24 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by rexbeccarox - February 19, 2014 at 7:35 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 19, 2014 at 7:48 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by bennyboy - February 19, 2014 at 10:49 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 19, 2014 at 11:07 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by bennyboy - February 20, 2014 at 1:27 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 20, 2014 at 7:07 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 19, 2014 at 11:30 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 19, 2014 at 8:04 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 19, 2014 at 7:08 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Rahul - February 19, 2014 at 9:10 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 19, 2014 at 10:34 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 19, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by shep - February 19, 2014 at 10:26 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Psykhronic - February 19, 2014 at 11:04 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 19, 2014 at 11:33 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 20, 2014 at 7:00 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by pocaracas - February 20, 2014 at 7:04 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by EgoRaptor - February 20, 2014 at 9:22 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by pocaracas - February 20, 2014 at 9:24 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Dragonetti - February 20, 2014 at 1:34 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by bennyboy - February 20, 2014 at 2:46 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Dragonetti - February 20, 2014 at 2:54 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by pocaracas - February 20, 2014 at 7:32 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Violet - February 20, 2014 at 5:34 pm
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Tonus - February 20, 2014 at 9:58 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by Chad32 - February 20, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: Moral Dilemma - by FlyingNarwhal - February 20, 2014 at 6:22 pm

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