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Slavery (on Thursdays)
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RE: Slavery (on Thursdays)
(February 25, 2014 at 10:56 pm)ThePinsir Wrote: I've started a new tradition of sorts. I call it "Thor's Day". Every Thursday I post s lot of atheism-related stuff on Facebook. I'm trying to stick to a theme each week, too. Last week was misogyny. I posted a few verses that said women had to submit, yada yada, you've all heard it before.
Expect to lose some 'friends'!
Quote:Of course, a lot of Christians tap danced the Hell out of it. And supposedly some stuff was mistranslated (a wonder that no "good" verses are ever mistranslated lol). So, to try to stay intellectually honest, I promised I'd do more research before next Thor's Day's topic.
There's always mistranslation or misinterpretation: there are as many of them as there are christians who will tell you about them. It's standard apologetics. The most effective responses question how any of the 'infallible' word of god can be trusted if god can allow mistranslations in it. There's no need to get in to the specifics that will likely derail your thread: do you really care if Aslan's mane was golden yellow or golden brown?
Quote:This Thursday I want to do slavery... what are the typical Christian defenses of biblical slavery, and what's the best way to counter them?
The 'indentured servitude' and 'prisoners of war' defenses are common examples of the 'cultural context' arguments you're likely to face: you've seen one on this thread. My response is generally this:

1. You agree that god's law mandates, condones and legislates slavery
2. You think this makes it okay for human beings to be owned as property
3. Your morals have been horrifically skewed by biblical teachings

It is morally wrong to own another human being as property, for any period of time, for any reason: there is no context in which it becomes right. Consequently anyone who opposes slavery on moral grounds is more moral than yahweh.
Sum ergo sum
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Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ThePinsir - February 25, 2014 at 10:56 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 25, 2014 at 10:58 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ThePinsir - February 25, 2014 at 11:00 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Drich - February 27, 2014 at 12:11 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 25, 2014 at 10:59 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by truthBtold - February 26, 2014 at 11:11 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by No_God - February 26, 2014 at 11:23 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 5:08 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by truthBtold - February 26, 2014 at 5:44 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by là bạn điên - February 27, 2014 at 1:30 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 5:45 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 6:54 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 6:57 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 7:26 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 7:42 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 26, 2014 at 10:52 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 27, 2014 at 12:29 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 27, 2014 at 12:52 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 27, 2014 at 11:45 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 27, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 27, 2014 at 11:18 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - February 28, 2014 at 6:31 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 6:38 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 8:20 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 8:31 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - February 28, 2014 at 8:58 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 10:14 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 10:17 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 11:13 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 12:12 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 12:37 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ThePinsir - February 28, 2014 at 10:25 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - February 28, 2014 at 10:53 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Faith No More - March 2, 2014 at 2:35 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 27, 2014 at 3:05 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Mr. Moncrieff - February 26, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 26, 2014 at 6:02 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 6:05 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 26, 2014 at 6:16 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Mr. Moncrieff - February 26, 2014 at 6:16 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 8:53 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Simon Moon - February 26, 2014 at 8:55 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 9:16 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Jackalope - February 26, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 9:39 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Jackalope - February 26, 2014 at 9:40 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - February 26, 2014 at 10:32 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Minimalist - February 26, 2014 at 10:57 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Minimalist - February 27, 2014 at 12:41 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Drich - February 27, 2014 at 1:23 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 27, 2014 at 2:37 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Minimalist - February 27, 2014 at 1:32 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by CapnAwesome - February 27, 2014 at 12:44 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - February 27, 2014 at 1:01 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - February 28, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 10:55 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - February 28, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - February 28, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 2:22 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 1, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 1, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 2, 2014 at 1:26 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 2, 2014 at 1:31 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 2, 2014 at 8:15 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by max-greece - February 28, 2014 at 2:18 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Minimalist - February 28, 2014 at 12:39 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - February 28, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by max-greece - February 28, 2014 at 12:51 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by truthBtold - February 28, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Minimalist - March 1, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 1, 2014 at 6:10 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by truthBtold - March 1, 2014 at 10:47 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 2, 2014 at 4:20 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 2, 2014 at 4:35 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 2, 2014 at 6:08 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 2, 2014 at 6:39 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 2, 2014 at 12:03 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 2, 2014 at 1:40 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by max-greece - March 2, 2014 at 6:23 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 2, 2014 at 8:26 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 2, 2014 at 8:33 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 1:01 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 1:55 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Faith No More - March 3, 2014 at 2:06 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 3, 2014 at 10:10 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 2, 2014 at 8:42 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 2, 2014 at 1:23 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 9:22 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 3, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 4:29 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 4:45 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 5:01 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 5:11 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 5:41 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 5:45 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 5:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Jackalope - March 3, 2014 at 5:46 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 5:57 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 3, 2014 at 7:46 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2014 at 7:48 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 3, 2014 at 7:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by rexbeccarox - March 3, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 6:59 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by rexbeccarox - March 4, 2014 at 7:12 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 4, 2014 at 7:15 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 8:48 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 4, 2014 at 9:04 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 10:39 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 4, 2014 at 11:57 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by rexbeccarox - March 4, 2014 at 2:36 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 1:39 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 1:41 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2014 at 8:40 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by rexbeccarox - March 3, 2014 at 8:51 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - March 4, 2014 at 12:19 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 1:31 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 1:39 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 4, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 5, 2014 at 11:24 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 5, 2014 at 11:47 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 12:00 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 6, 2014 at 12:08 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 12:21 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 6, 2014 at 12:35 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 12:48 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 7:08 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 7:10 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 6, 2014 at 1:15 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - March 6, 2014 at 6:49 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 9:40 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - March 6, 2014 at 10:18 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 11:16 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ThePinsir - March 6, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 1:45 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 2:04 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 2:14 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 2:18 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - March 7, 2014 at 6:50 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by rexbeccarox - March 4, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 3:11 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ThePinsir - March 6, 2014 at 2:14 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by truthBtold - March 6, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 3:00 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 3:56 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 6, 2014 at 4:26 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 6, 2014 at 4:32 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 6, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 6, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 6, 2014 at 4:43 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 12:43 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 6, 2014 at 4:45 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 6, 2014 at 5:42 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 6, 2014 at 7:35 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Cinjin - March 6, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 3:05 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 3:19 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 8:08 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 3:24 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 3:28 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 3:41 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 3:46 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 4:10 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 4:49 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 7, 2014 at 3:50 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 7, 2014 at 3:34 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 7:14 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 7:17 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 7:43 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 9:14 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 1:26 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ronedee - March 7, 2014 at 10:52 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 10:54 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ronedee - March 7, 2014 at 10:55 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 11:25 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 7, 2014 at 2:23 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 7:37 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 8, 2014 at 2:55 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 8, 2014 at 4:17 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 8, 2014 at 5:07 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 8, 2014 at 5:43 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 8, 2014 at 6:44 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 8, 2014 at 7:00 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 9, 2014 at 7:30 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 8, 2014 at 7:57 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 9, 2014 at 7:14 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 9, 2014 at 8:01 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 9, 2014 at 8:05 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 9, 2014 at 9:51 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 9, 2014 at 9:56 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 9, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 9, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 9, 2014 at 10:52 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 9, 2014 at 12:20 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Kayenneh - March 9, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 9, 2014 at 1:23 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 9, 2014 at 2:06 pm

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