(March 3, 2014 at 1:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: what context makes it okay? Let put this in a modern context so we can form a better picture.
Let's say that there is a homeless guy standing on the side of a road holding a sign.. "Will work for food". And in this scenario, lets say a farmer who needs a farmhand approaches the Guy and inquires about why he's down on his luck. The homeless guy replies that he lost his home in the housing bubble crash, and between that and credit cards he is about $140,000 in debt. So the farmer offers him a deal\contract to pay off his debt + free room and board, to come work at his farm for the next 7 years. you somehow find that immoral? sounds win win to me.
You are entirely too dishonest to continue this with: as I've already pointed out to you, that seven year minimum was for Jewish slaves only. Anyone else can be enslaved forever, passed down as property, and so on. I'm so tired of this sloppy little bait and switch bullshit, where you only ever talk about one while avoiding the other entirely.
Besides, we should probably amend your example anyway, because the farmer conspicuously seems to have forgotten to mention how the homeless guy would be his property for those seven years, how he's allowed to beat him, and how he can trick him into staying by giving him a wife that the farmer also owns.
Jesus, there is so much wrong with how you choose to defend these passages that there's no way you aren't just lying your ass off.
Quote:Matthew 19:
(KJV)
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
The same as every hypocritical rule ever made: "Don't do X thing. Oh, except Y and Z variants, because those don't count."
Quote:Actually that is exactly what you implied.
I can't be sure that if I had that particular power that I wouldn't abuse it, and I'm the one that believes that I'd have to eventually answer for my actions. You on the other hand have no such belief, and yet you could say with absolute certainty...
"Zero, because I'm not a sociopath, unlike your god"
Makes you either "perfect" or the one that's being dishonest.
Or, and try to follow me on this, I know it's hard to consider, but I could just have this thing called a "conscience," and a little bit of "empathy," that makes me not want to inflict suffering on anyone else. More importantly, I guess we live totally different lives, because I can't think of anyone around me that I'd actually want to kill.
Don't project your own moral failings onto me and then call me a liar when I refuse to sink to your level.
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