Slavery (on Thursdays)

[Esquilax]

Did you not read where I posted that everyone that was in bondage could go free no matter what nationality, in the year of Jubile, which which was every 50 years. Which means you could be a servant for as little as 1 year.

I see, and that's your excuse? For starters, the life expectancy back then was less than fifty years, so as just an odds game, most foreign slaves would die without ever even seeing this happen. Secondly, the idea that they might be freed after one year doesn't mean they all, most, or even some of them were. You're attempting to excuse slavery because they could go free once every fifty years? Really?

I already showed you a quote from a Jewish website, which has more knowledge of Hebrew law than I do, which states:

"In Hebrew law, the slave was not a thing, but a human being; he was not the chattel of a master who had unlimited power over him."

Hebrew law? I'm talking about the fucking bible.

Show me in the King James Version of the Bible where it states that a servant/slave is property.

Okay, but I think it's interesting that you don't already know this:

"Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."

You kinda fucked up, there. That's the whole verse though, so no whining about context, and if you try to play if off by referring to the last sentence, I'll have to tell you again that that's restricted to the Jews only.

another quote from the website..

"Brutal treatment of any slave, whether Hebrew or heathen, secures his immediate liberty."

also some scripture...
Exodus 21
26 And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake.
27 And if he smite out his manservant's tooth, or his maidservant's tooth; he shall let him go free for his tooth's sake.

please explain how this condones beating your servant?

Oh cool, you found a contradiction in the bible! That certainly doesn't mean the other passages I've shown you no longer exist, though.

aYou do realize they had to pay a dowry in those days to get married right? for instance, Jacob had to work 7 years apiece for the father of his two wives in order to marry them. So he could leave, just not if wife (if the wife was provided my the master). She would be free to go on Jubile.

Oh okay, so it's fine to own women and give them away as forced brides, because it costs a lot of money.

killing someone in cold blood is murder, executing the murderer is called justice. understand the difference?

Too bad you're talking to someone who's against the death penalty.

I'll give you an example. when 9-11 happened I can't think of anyone who wouldn't want to kill Osama Bin Laden. My whole point was that in a moment of anger or losing your temper, if you had the power to kill with a word, how big would your body count be? the "honest" answer is at the very least "I don't know", not "zero"

That is why, you sir, are the pinnacle of righteousness.

Oh, fuck off, strawman, How the fuck would you even know that I get angry enough to want to harm someone? I've got fucking impulse control, genius; if I really got angry enough that I wanted to hurt someone I could do that now, without magical powers. Somehow, I manage not to.

It's only hard for you, because you seem determined to see everyone else as just as immoral and reprobate as you yourself.