Slavery (on Thursdays)

[Huggy Bear]

Did you not read where I posted that everyone that was in bondage could go free no matter what nationality, in the year of Jubile, which which was every 50 years. Which means you could be a servant for as little as 1 year.

I see, and that's your excuse? For starters, the life expectancy back then was less than fifty years, so as just an odds game, most foreign slaves would die without ever even seeing this happen.

you do realize Moses died at 120 years of age

Secondly, the idea that they might be freed after one year doesn't mean they all, most, or even some of them were. You're attempting to excuse slavery because they could go free once every fifty years? Really?

yes, if you decided you wanted to be a slave of your own "free will" you'd be free to go in the year of Jubile.

Hebrew law? I'm talking about the fucking bible.

are you serious?
you realize we are discussing the Law that Moses gave to the Hebrews right?

Okay, but I think it's interesting that you don't already know this:

"Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour."

You kinda fucked up, there. That's the whole verse though, so no whining about context, and if you try to play if off by referring to the last sentence, I'll have to tell you again that that's restricted to the Jews only.

Look up the definition of "Property" and "Possession" . If you let me borrow a tool for instance it in in my possession but not my property. Get it? If someone sells themselves in to servitude then they come into their masters possession not property. because it is only for a limited time.

Oh cool, you found a contradiction in the bible! That certainly doesn't mean the other passages I've shown you no longer exist, though.

no contradiction, you stated that servants were allowed to be beaten. I showed you where they weren't.

Oh okay, so it's fine to own women and give them away as forced brides, because it costs a lot of money.

we went over the whole "property vs possession" thing. there is nothing to imply anyone was forced, pure assumption. Why can't you assume that the servants fell in love and asked for permission to marry?

Too bad you're talking to someone who's against the death penalty.

your views are irrelevant.

Oh, fuck off, strawman, How the fuck would you even know that I get angry enough to want to harm someone? I've got fucking impulse control, genius;

Seeing how you can't have a simple debate without resorting to expletives, leads me to believe you have no impulse control.

if I really got angry enough that I wanted to hurt someone I could do that now, without magical powers. Somehow, I manage not to.

The reason you manage not to, is that you realize that realize there are consequences for doing so, unlike insulting someone over the internet, which provides you with the anonymity to say what you normally wouldn't say to someone face to face.

So if you had "magical powers" you would abuse them since the consequences no longer apply to you like they do everyone else, hence "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" . But YOU claim that you would never abuse that power and therefore you'd be the one exception. therefore making you the "pinnacle of righteousness"

It's only hard for you, because you seem determined to see everyone else as just as immoral and reprobate as you yourself.

No, I can be honest.