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Slavery (on Thursdays)
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays)
(March 6, 2014 at 10:18 am)Ben Davis Wrote: The things that are telling about your post:

1. You refuse to acknowledge the 'ownership of people as property' rules in the biblical laws of 'servitude'. In fact, you seem to talk about every other rule in a fairly knowledgeable way so I have to assume you're aware that the rules explicitly stated that people were owned as property.

already been over this many times.
show me in the King James version where it "explicitly states" people be owned as property

Quote:2. Your failure to directly answer the questions
I'll answer your question and in turn i'll ask you a direct yes or no
question, do you believe the words "property' an "possession" to mean the same thing?

Quote:So to your answers:

1. It matters not whether the society was feudal, agrarian, capitalist, communist, anarchist or anything else. So I'll rephrase my question to (hopefully!) make you commit to a direct answer: given the opportunity, would you own another person as property?
No

Quote:2. Once again a dodge. Your mortgage does not strip you of your right to self-determination. So once again, I'll rephrase: would you submit to being stripped of your right to self-determination?
yes

it seems everything has to be spelled out for you guys. Self determination is defined as: determination by oneself or itself, without outside influence, or freedom to live as one chooses, or to act or decide without consulting another or others. So therefore by having a mortgage I take on something called "responsibility" . My "self determination" may be to sit at home all day everyday and relax, but if I want to keep my house I need to have a job like it or not.
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Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ThePinsir - February 25, 2014 at 10:56 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 25, 2014 at 10:58 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ThePinsir - February 25, 2014 at 11:00 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Drich - February 27, 2014 at 12:11 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 25, 2014 at 10:59 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by truthBtold - February 26, 2014 at 11:11 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by No_God - February 26, 2014 at 11:23 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 5:08 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by truthBtold - February 26, 2014 at 5:44 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by là bạn điên - February 27, 2014 at 1:30 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 5:45 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 6:54 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 6:57 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 7:26 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 7:42 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 26, 2014 at 10:52 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 27, 2014 at 12:29 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 27, 2014 at 12:52 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 27, 2014 at 11:45 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 27, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 27, 2014 at 11:18 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - February 28, 2014 at 6:31 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 6:38 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 8:20 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 8:31 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - February 28, 2014 at 8:58 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 10:14 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 10:17 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 11:13 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 12:12 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 12:37 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ThePinsir - February 28, 2014 at 10:25 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - February 28, 2014 at 10:53 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Faith No More - March 2, 2014 at 2:35 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 27, 2014 at 3:05 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Mr. Moncrieff - February 26, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 26, 2014 at 6:02 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 6:05 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - February 26, 2014 at 6:16 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Mr. Moncrieff - February 26, 2014 at 6:16 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by My imaginary friend is GOD - February 26, 2014 at 8:53 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Simon Moon - February 26, 2014 at 8:55 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 9:16 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Jackalope - February 26, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 9:39 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Jackalope - February 26, 2014 at 9:40 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 26, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - February 26, 2014 at 10:32 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Minimalist - February 26, 2014 at 10:57 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Minimalist - February 27, 2014 at 12:41 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Drich - February 27, 2014 at 1:23 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 27, 2014 at 2:37 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Minimalist - February 27, 2014 at 1:32 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by CapnAwesome - February 27, 2014 at 12:44 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - February 27, 2014 at 1:01 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by TaraJo - February 27, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - February 28, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - February 28, 2014 at 10:55 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - February 28, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - February 28, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - February 28, 2014 at 2:22 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 1, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 1, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 2, 2014 at 1:26 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 2, 2014 at 1:31 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 2, 2014 at 8:15 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by max-greece - February 28, 2014 at 2:18 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Minimalist - February 28, 2014 at 12:39 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - February 28, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by max-greece - February 28, 2014 at 12:51 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by truthBtold - February 28, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Minimalist - March 1, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 1, 2014 at 6:10 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by truthBtold - March 1, 2014 at 10:47 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 2, 2014 at 4:20 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 2, 2014 at 4:35 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 2, 2014 at 6:08 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 2, 2014 at 6:39 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 2, 2014 at 12:03 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 2, 2014 at 1:40 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by max-greece - March 2, 2014 at 6:23 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 2, 2014 at 8:26 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 2, 2014 at 8:33 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 1:01 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 1:55 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Faith No More - March 3, 2014 at 2:06 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 3, 2014 at 10:10 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 2, 2014 at 8:42 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 2, 2014 at 1:23 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 9:22 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 3, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 4:29 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 4:45 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 5:01 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 5:11 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 5:41 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 5:45 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 3, 2014 at 5:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Jackalope - March 3, 2014 at 5:46 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 3, 2014 at 5:57 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 3, 2014 at 7:46 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2014 at 7:48 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 3, 2014 at 7:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by rexbeccarox - March 3, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 6:59 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by rexbeccarox - March 4, 2014 at 7:12 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 4, 2014 at 7:15 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 8:48 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 4, 2014 at 9:04 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 10:39 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 4, 2014 at 11:57 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by rexbeccarox - March 4, 2014 at 2:36 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 1:39 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 1:41 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2014 at 8:40 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by rexbeccarox - March 3, 2014 at 8:51 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by SteelCurtain - March 4, 2014 at 12:19 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 1:31 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 1:39 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 4, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 5, 2014 at 11:24 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 5, 2014 at 11:47 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 12:00 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 6, 2014 at 12:08 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 12:21 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 6, 2014 at 12:35 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 12:48 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 7:08 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 7:10 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 6, 2014 at 1:15 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - March 6, 2014 at 6:49 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 9:40 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - March 6, 2014 at 10:18 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 11:16 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ThePinsir - March 6, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 1:45 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 2:04 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 2:14 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 2:18 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Ben Davis - March 7, 2014 at 6:50 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by rexbeccarox - March 4, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 4, 2014 at 3:11 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ThePinsir - March 6, 2014 at 2:14 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by truthBtold - March 6, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 3:00 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 6, 2014 at 3:56 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 6, 2014 at 4:26 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 6, 2014 at 4:32 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 6, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 6, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 6, 2014 at 4:43 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 12:43 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 6, 2014 at 4:45 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 6, 2014 at 5:42 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 6, 2014 at 7:35 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Cinjin - March 6, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 3:05 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 3:19 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 8:08 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 3:24 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 3:28 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 3:41 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 3:46 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 4:10 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 4:49 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 7, 2014 at 3:50 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 7, 2014 at 3:34 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 7:14 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 7:17 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 7:43 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 9:14 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 1:26 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ronedee - March 7, 2014 at 10:52 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 10:54 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by ronedee - March 7, 2014 at 10:55 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 7, 2014 at 11:25 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 7, 2014 at 2:23 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2014 at 7:37 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 8, 2014 at 2:55 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 8, 2014 at 4:17 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 8, 2014 at 5:07 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 8, 2014 at 5:43 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 8, 2014 at 6:44 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 8, 2014 at 7:00 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 9, 2014 at 7:30 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 8, 2014 at 7:57 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 9, 2014 at 7:14 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 9, 2014 at 8:01 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 9, 2014 at 8:05 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 9, 2014 at 9:51 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 9, 2014 at 9:56 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by fr0d0 - March 9, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Esquilax - March 9, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 9, 2014 at 10:52 am
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Rahul - March 9, 2014 at 12:20 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Kayenneh - March 9, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: Slavery (on Thursdays) - by Bad Wolf - March 9, 2014 at 1:23 pm
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