(March 6, 2014 at 8:32 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(March 6, 2014 at 8:23 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: (whispers) pssst....remember that word 'credible?' lol
The Gospels are not credible, if we're talking about basically four dudes, whom no one has ever met, talking about their life with Jesus, whom no one has ever met. (and there's no evidence showing that they ever existed) Unlike say dinosaurs. Or Neanderthals. No one has met either, but...there's credible evidence to support their existence. There is none when it comes to the Bible. Which is why faith is believing in something unseen. I'm willing to listen, but only to credible accounts.
CREDIBLE.
Tell us why you believe the Gospels to be credible, might be worth debating.
The Gospels and the Islamic hadiths are identical in one major aspect. They were all written by people far removed in time from the events that their protagonists supposedly did. The Gospels were written decades later and the hadiths were written over a hundred and more years after Mohammed supposedly fluttered across the Arabian desert. Yet they both contain detailed conversations that no one would know about even if such characters had actually lived.
So, it's hearsay, then.
Hearsay is not and has never been proof of anything, not just religious convinctions.
If I say I saw your boss robbing a bank last night, but there's no evidence to prove it, I have no credible evidence to offer...would you just take my word for it?
If I pass that story to you, then you tell it to someone else, and this goes on for say...2000+ years...will longevity make the story, credible?
I understand your point, but it's nothing but hearsay.
The theory of evolution isn't believed by most, due to hearsay. While still a theory, there is substantial amounts of credible evidence to support it.
The Bible at the least, is hearsay. At the worst, lies. I believe it's a combination thereof, based on how it's been 'used' over the centuries...as a tool to justify wars, hatred, homophobia, racism and bigotry.